Re: F430 presentation
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Mako88 said:
The Gallardo's rear end is fine, only F-car fanboys object to it. No car show or event I've been to, not ONE, has the normal sportscar fan had anything to say negative about it. Only the F-car loyalists perpetuate that there's something wrong with it. The Gallardo's rear end is fine.
Well my dear L-car fanboy, you are talking a lot of BS now.
Perhaps YOU have been to the wrong car shows, but I can tell you I wasn't the only one who was disappointed about the rear of the Gallardo. I heard that opinion at several occasions from different people, even from L-officials (!) in Geneva.
But I never said the Gallardo isn't a good car - read my posts and you will see and stop talking nonsense. It may not me the right car for me out of several reasons but that's personal taste.
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This is where you lost me, and likely the rest of the group. Lets just say that the 430 certainly is not going to be cheaper than the Gallardo, and agree to disagree. It's not worth the typing to explain that not only will it likely be more expensive than the G on the street (not MSRP as F-car fanboys love to quote. No such thing as a Ferrari at MSRP unless your name is on the Enzo short list) it will be far more expensive.
Mako88, on which planet are you living on? Perhaps what you're talking about applies to the US but certainly not here in Europe. Let alone the Enzo, I can get a Ferrari for MSRP at any time, even without having printed "Enzo" in my passport.
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Rossi, as evidenced by your Jeremy Clarkson oh-so-tired and unoriginal quote in the sig (not insulting you here, Clarkson is a clown) you're clearly an F-car fan. They can probably do no wrong in your book, and you actually "like" the orca-whale-lizard-eye'd 612 as well. If that's the case, there's no debating with you. I'm Italian, I know how deep the Tifosi loyalties can blind people.
Yes, I'm a fan of Ferrari (not very difficult to find out) but I'm also quite critical.
Saying this, yes, I think the 612 looks better in person than on pictures, but it is far from being beautiful (the most beautiful 2+2 from Ferrari was the 456 IMO).
I also have some complaints about the much appreciated 360 design. I think it takes time to get used to the double air intake and the rear is too high and not aggressive enough, not as good as the all-time-great 355, one of Ferrari's best designs ever.
The styling of the 575 is surely elegant and timeless, but perhaps it's a bit too elegant for a Ferrari GT.
I even have some complaints about the Enzo. The rear works out fine, but I don't like that F1-style nose as it is good for nothing and doesn't even look good (like SLR).
BTW - I'm also a great fan of Britsh humour and Great Britain - so that and only that is the only reason for my signature.
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For me, the 430 is a great car, it has the makings of another strong chapter in Ferrari lore from a performance and technical standpoint. But it's ugly, and much like the 355 to 360 change, in which people far prefer the look of the 355 in polls, people will wind up far preferring the 360 to the 430 in terms of looks.
That's not progress to me and I'm tired of it. L-cars have gotten better looking over the past six years, not worse. The Murci looks better than a 6.0, which looks better than an SV, etc. Same could be said about the Gallardo, which many L-car owners actually prefer in terms of design to the Murci.
Can't say the same for Ferrari, they're all about volume and not offending anyone with their most recent designs, with the exception of the Enzo. The Enzo showed that when it comes to a car not critical for Ferrari's financial survival, they have some balls. But on their volume build-10,000-of-them 430, they went nice and safe, much safer than the Gallardo for instance.
I miss the old Ferrari.
I'm also fan of the older Ferrari as you see, but different to you I prefer the design of the Murcielago over that of the Gallardo as M has the right amount of aggressiveness, whereas G looks too bland from some angles.
You see, perhaps we are not that far away in our opinions about cars and car design, but then to each his own, right? As I said before. So stop calling me a F-car fanboy, okay?
Best
rossi
