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Ring time is 7:35 - slower than a stock 997GT2 - not good, given its significant power/speed advantage down those long staightaways.
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mp said:
Ring time is 7:35 - slower than a stock 997GT2 - not good, given its significant power/speed advantage down those long staightaways.
... it's meant for daily-driver road use and thus not setup to extract every last second at the track.
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mp said:
Ring time is 7:35 - slower than a stock 997GT2 - not good, given its significant power/speed advantage down those long staightaways.
... it's meant for daily-driver road use and thus not setup to extract every last second at the track.
But the GT2 is also set up for daily-driver road use, so what mp said is still valid.
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mp said:
Ring time is 7:35 - slower than a stock 997GT2 - not good, given its significant power/speed advantage down those long staightaways.
... it's meant for daily-driver road use and thus not setup to extract every last second at the track.
But the GT2 is also set up for daily-driver road use, so what mp said is still valid.
I tend to disagree with you and mp - and agree with Crash
Same performance in HHR as the GT2
Very close on the NBR despite a weight penalty of ca. 100kg (although I agree that the additional power has to be taken into consideration here)
Significantly faster in the straight line
In summary, the Rt12 might be called the better car... if only the price difference was not that huge
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KresoF1 said:
Well, I think that RT12 is way overpriced despite very good results. For Euro 320K(test RT12 price) you can get 997 GT2 and new Audi RS6 Avant. I would choose this two over RT12 any time.
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Well, I think that RT12 is way overpriced despite very good results. For Euro 320K(test RT12 price) you can get 997 GT2 and new Audi RS6 Avant. I would choose this two over RT12 any time.
Kreso, you are right regarding price (i.e. depreciation). With the Rt12 you simply burn another 100k Euros over a three year period compared to the GT2.
However, having said this: if both cars were sold at the same price I would go for the Rt12. The power of this car is simply unbelievable
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Ring time is 7:35 - slower than a stock 997GT2 - not good, given its significant power/speed advantage down those long staightaways.
... it's meant for daily-driver road use and thus not setup to extract every last second at the track.
But the GT2 is also set up for daily-driver road use, so what mp said is still valid.
I tend to disagree with you and mp - and agree with Crash
Same performance in HHR as the GT2
Very close on the NBR despite a weight penalty of ca. 100kg (although I agree that the additional power has to be taken into consideration here)
Significantly faster in the straight line
In summary, the Rt12 might be called the better car... if only the price difference was not that huge
Music to my ears . Btw, when are you getting your 599? It would be a hard choice for me between that and this .
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mp said:
Ring time is 7:35 - slower than a stock 997GT2 - not good, given its significant power/speed advantage down those long staightaways.
... it's meant for daily-driver road use and thus not setup to extract every last second at the track.
But the GT2 is also set up for daily-driver road use, so what mp said is still valid.
I tend to disagree with you and mp - and agree with Crash
Same performance in HHR as the GT2
Very close on the NBR despite a weight penalty of ca. 100kg (although I agree that the additional power has to be taken into consideration here)
Significantly faster in the straight line
In summary, the Rt12 might be called the better car... if only the price difference was not that huge
Music to my ears . Btw, when are you getting your 599? It would be a hard choice for me between that and this .
I hate to bring dischord into your music, Crash.
I don't even know what the RT12 costs, but if it is significantly more than the GT2 just to be able to do something that nobody has much use for (that is, driving between speeds of 329 km//h and 361 km/h - or between 204 mph and 222 mph) but have inferior handling (see Nürburgring time), then I stand by what I said.
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Well, I think that RT12 is way overpriced despite very good results. For Euro 320K(test RT12 price) you can get 997 GT2 and new Audi RS6 Avant. I would choose this two over RT12 any time.
Kreso, you are right regarding price (i.e. depreciation). With the Rt12 you simply burn another 100k Euros over a three year period compared to the GT2.
However, having said this: if both cars were sold at the same price I would go for the Rt12. The power of this car is simply unbelievable
Markus,
Yes, power is amazing and RT12 is Veyron aside the fastest car on the planet. BUT... RT12 is suffering from same problems in drive dynamics as 997 Turbo according to Horst(even more sudden oversteer). 997 GT2 is better at drive dynamics, wet handling(more traction despite only RWD, tested version of RT12 is AWD) and overall stability.
Other question for you-were can you drive over 330km/h these days? On empty autobahn? Sunday early morning during spring time?
On curvy country road(Black Forrest area in your country for example) 997 GT2 will be faster(if both drivers skills are at the same level)...
...and for the same money you can have 997 GT2 as weekend car and Audi RS6 Avant as daily commuter/family car!
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Anyone know if HvS will test a RWD version of the RT12? That might be a more interesting comparison to the 997GT2.