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    Jan 18, 2008 7:30:57 PM

    silvershadow
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    Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    I'm really thinking about having one but i live in switzerland. Any of you with experience of a 911 C2S on snow?
    How does it behave?

    Jan 18, 2008 9:37:07 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    My C4 handles great in the snow. Buy a C4S

    Jan 18, 2008 10:03:29 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    Get a C2S with -20mm Sport Suspension with LSD - more fun than AWD!

    LSD with snow tires will give you lots of traction. Not good in deep snow but fine on packed snow or fresh snow less than 3" deep...

    Jan 18, 2008 10:51:26 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    Quote:
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    Get a C2S with -20mm Sport Suspension with LSD - more fun than AWD!

    LSD with snow tires will give you lots of traction. Not good in deep snow but fine on packed snow or fresh snow less than 3" deep...



    Living in Switzerland I think a C4S -20mm might be a great compromise!

    Jan 18, 2008 11:36:31 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    Interestingly, Gnil, a Swiss Rennteamer, who owns a C4S with -20mm & LSD, has said that, next time, he intends to get a C2S with -20mm & LSD.

    Jan 19, 2008 5:25:43 AM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    and his brother has a GT3, so ... RWD all the way!!

    Jan 19, 2008 9:49:21 AM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    I'm looking for a C2S with LSD -20mm and sport exhaust but it's not easy to find.

    Jan 19, 2008 10:42:36 AM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    Quote:
    silvershadow said:
    I'm looking for a C2S with LSD -20mm and sport exhaust but it's not easy to find.



    Coincidentally, I know where you can find such a car: http://www.verellenporsche.be/index.php?action=gen_page&idx=1053&id_vehic=104

    Black over black, PSE can be retrofitted, good mileage and PCCB.. It's located in Belgium but comes with international porsche warranty. If it's not possible to come and collect in Belgium I will be happy to deliver




    NB: If the link above is not a direct link, just click on 'Beschikbare wagens' and then 'Tweedehandswagens'..

    Jan 19, 2008 12:34:55 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    Thanks for the link i just go in and have a look

    Jan 19, 2008 12:37:13 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    The car looks really nice. What i will do is have a test drive over a local dealer to see my impressions over the car. Then, in case i like it, i will let you know if the one you indicated can be an option for me.

    Thanks mate

    Jan 19, 2008 1:19:00 PM

    DaveGordon
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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    I've got a 2005 C2S with -20mm, PSE, and LSD. The occasions i've been skiing have been fine. Go for it.

    Coincidentally, I also live in Zürich and might be in the market to sell it in a couple of months.. ;-)

    Jan 19, 2008 2:21:57 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    I'm thinking the C4 was made to better sell the car in snowy northern latitudes. Can you find a lot of used C2s in your region or are there many more C4s? That should tell you something.

    Jan 19, 2008 3:00:51 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    Well in here you find everything.
    At the minute...considering the C4S come out a bit later...there are more C2S.

    Hi DaveGordon, nice to find another chap from zuerich in here.
    If you like to sell it a bit earlier just let me know.
    I could be really interested. How many km?

    Jan 19, 2008 3:27:49 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    PM sent, Silvershadow..

    Jan 19, 2008 3:30:57 PM

    MMD
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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    Quote:
    silvershadow said:
    Well in here you find everything.
    At the minute...considering the C4S come out a bit later...there are more C2S.




    Darn! I was hoping that would answer the question indirectly and effectively. There's a loss of steering feel with the C4 compared to the C2. I'm on the side of safety these days (in stark contrast to when I was younger ) so I'd probably sacrifice the steering feel and lean toward the C4 if snow and ice coated roads were commonplace. Someday the extra traction might avert a big problem.

    Jan 19, 2008 4:28:38 PM

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    Re: Thinking about a 2005 Carrera S

    For MMD:
    Relative to the snow i've seen this year i think i could have done it even with a 2 wheel driven car (maybe not with a GT3 since i'm not such a skilled driver).

    On the other hand i have already a 911TT and with it i went everywhere, even on snow pists
     
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