Apr 10, 2018 4:46:06 PM
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Apr 10, 2018 6:44:33 PM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
DaveGordon:Nope. Strung me along for a couple of months and finally got a 'no'.
Sorry to hear, Dave. However I wouldn't dispair. If you don't get one from the first batch, you'll get one from the next. Keep fighting 
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Kobalt:Sucks... :(
+1. Still can’t believe he does not get one 
please Mr Porsche , can you make that Dave get s one before the summer Holliday’s. He will use it on roads and tracks. It will not end up on autoscout.ch
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Apr 10, 2018 6:49:02 PM
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Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.
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Apr 10, 2018 6:49:58 PM
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Apr 10, 2018 7:04:08 PM
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Apr 10, 2018 7:26:45 PM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
crayphile:throt:Call your dealership every so often, Dave. You be in the hat big time for the second run
Keep telling yourself that as well Hairy One.
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Well I am in the hat. Cray, what is ‘’the hat’’..?...
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Apr 10, 2018 7:49:22 PM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
DaveGordon:No shiny green car for Dave either
Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...
On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
bluelines:DaveGordon:No shiny green car for Dave either
Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...
On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway
Hey,,,, I thought you never liked our gen 1’s , remember, well you wasn’t keen on my white one 
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
throt:bluelines:DaveGordon:No shiny green car for Dave either
Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...
On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway
Hey,,,, I thought you never liked our gen 1’s , remember, well you wasn’t keen on my white one
I think you are mixing car and person now 
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
bluelines:throt:bluelines:DaveGordon:No shiny green car for Dave either
Ridiculous that they cannot meet customer demand. It is not like it is your first Porsche. Brand loyal and repeat customers should be treated well. They might not hang around for longer otherwise...
On the flip side, I said it before, nothing wrong with your current car. I find Guards Red is nicer than Slime Green anyway
Hey,,,, I thought you never liked our gen 1’s , remember, well you wasn’t keen on my white one
I think you are mixing car and person now
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Apr 10, 2018 8:49:37 PM
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Apr 10, 2018 9:08:42 PM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
DaveGordon:I wondered about that as well, but it’s all people trying to sell those for a profit, too. Not playing that game on principle.
Ok but asking price is one thing... I noticed that when selling the 997, none move as advertised.
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Apr 10, 2018 9:51:39 PM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
DaveGordon:Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.
If it were up to me I would take the GT3-2/RS allocations from dealer's hands and assign them directly from factory to the clients, create a point system, the more points you have the higher up you are on the list, the more track events you can prove you attended with a 911 the more points you have, the more miles you made your previous 911 the more points you get, if they are GT3/RS miles even more points, the longer you kept your previous GT car the more points, if you sold it before 6 month you loose a ton of points, etc... poseurs and flippers? don't let the door hit you on your a$$ on the way out, thank you. One can only dream....
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Apr 10, 2018 10:59:47 PM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Dave, what reason/reasons did your dealer give for not being able to give you an allocation? Did he say if there is a second batch you will have a better chance?
Carlos, what you're suggesting will never work. Why? Because in the US the dealer is the customer of PCNA not the buyer. The dealer has to make profits on these limited allocation cars and the only way is that you sell to your regular customers who turn the car in for another coveted model as I do. This way the dealer makes money and the sale to the customer and when the customer turns the car back, the dealer sells it yet again often for substantially more than MSRP.
I lived with this while in the Ferrari system and now with Porsche. Honestly, they don't want a lot of miles especially track miles on the turned in cars. They sell for much more. It worked for me because I have accessibility to allocations, I don't loss any significant dollars and I get to enjoy the best cars Porsche has to offer.
To make this work, you cannot get attached to cars. I never have and never will. They provide me immediate enjoyment until Porsche introduces another more exciting model.
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Apr 11, 2018 1:48:06 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
DaveGordon:Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.
Sorry Dave, I hate it too but I hate these people who proudly flipped cars specially GT3s
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Apr 11, 2018 4:18:34 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
DaveGordon:Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.
we have the same here in UAE, tons of cars with delivery miles...still asking a premium which cost more than .2RS where they are expecting like 100 cars split in two dealers... joke!
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Apr 11, 2018 4:58:34 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Actually things are different than they were with .1 rs. The VAT played a role and the demand isn’t as big as they think it is. Ordered my GT3 and the dealer mandated that by paying the deposit I will not be able to sell the allocation and must register it under my name. I am glad that this is happening or else I would not have got the chance to order one this late.
Apr 11, 2018 5:09:26 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Carlos from Spain:DaveGordon:Just pisses me off that half these VIP cars will end up on Autoscout 1 day later for 400k, where they will sit for ever because no-one is stupid enough to pay that. There are still 0km .1RS cars there unsold from launch time.
If it were up to me I would take the GT3-2/RS allocations from dealer's hands and assign them directly from factory to the clients, create a point system, the more points you have the higher up you are on the list, the more track events you can prove you attended with a 911 the more points you have, the more miles you made your previous 911 the more points you get, if they are GT3/RS miles even more points, the longer you kept your previous GT car the more points, if you sold it before 6 month you loose a ton of points, etc... poseurs and flippers? don't let the door hit you on your a$$ on the way out, thank you. One can only dream....
This is an excellent idea. The current system is highly problematical and has destroyed a lot of loyalty of long-term customers. In the next downturn most of those new buyers who seem attractive to the Porsche dealers these days will be gone - as many of them are just there because they think the GT cars "are a good investment". That is nonsense, of course. The GT cars (all of the 991 generation) are mass produced, i.e. many more made then needed in normal times.
Apr 11, 2018 5:13:41 AM
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
AP911:Actually things are different than they were with .1 rs. The VAT played a role and the demand isn’t as big as they think it is. Ordered my GT3 and the dealer mandated that by paying the deposit I will not be able to sell the allocation and must register it under my name. I am glad that this is happening or else I would not have got the chance to order one this late.
When is your production allocation?
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
absent:How are you able to enjoy your "limited" cars without tracking or even driving them as you said yourself because you don't want to put miles on them?
Staring at them sitting in your garage?
Let me clarify. First, you’re right I don’t track my cars. Many years ago I did and I witness many accidents often the good driver trying to evade a bad driver but both cars severally damaged. Today car insurance companies do not insure damage resulting from on track incidents. There is track insurance available but very expensive especially if you don’t track often. Finally, very few owners of Porsche GT cars track their cars. Those that track often have older models designed exclusively for the track.
I do put miles on my cars. Within a year close to 5000. The GT cars are weekend cars and not DD. But I do find roads that allow me to exercise the car the way it should. FWIW, my last Ferrari which I bought new I turned in with 15,000 miles on it.
i assume you’re tracking the GT2RS? Good luck. 🍀
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