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    6-apr-2018 19.43.13

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    RC:

    Just heard of two guys in Germany getting a 991.2 GT3 RS with Weissach package in June and July. Confirmed!

    Under 250 cars for Germany total (first batch)...similar to GT2 RS...

    Any new rumors on the second batch,filter or not filter?Smiley

    but,better...are we so sure there will be a second batch?Smiley


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    7-apr-2018 9.39.25

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Nobody knows, my SA told me that they have no information from Porsche that will happen after August holidays. 

    7-apr-2018 13.51.40

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    At my dealer they told me they are getting a second batch . 

    Why would they not ? If they can make the cars and sell them it would be crazy not to do it. Unless they love us so much that they want to make us a 70th anniversary gift :-))


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    7-apr-2018 14.20.09

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:

    At my dealer they told me they are getting a second batch . 

    Why would they not ? If they can make the cars and sell them it would be crazy not to do it. Unless they love us so much that they want to make us a 70th anniversary gift :-))

    Yes,they will do...but i’m curious to see how they menage the filter/non filter issue.

    seems that after the factory shut down for the new emissions rules,nothing will be like before..Smiley


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    7-apr-2018 16.06.22

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    I found it to be very stunning in real life. I would tone down the interior look by going with black seat inserts as opposed to the lizard green seat inserts.  Also, might eliminate the model decal on the doors. My good friend has ordered his GT3 RS in white with the Weissach Package.  My apologies for the delayed response to your questions.


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    8-apr-2018 8.02.54

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Small update : got to the lottery at my dealer to get the RS.

    Unfortunately not winner - very pissed with the brand right now : while favoriting both flippers and people who,just want one for making money, others are left down the road.

    I'm very pissed and then likelihood that I sell my 4.0 and go to another band is high - what a shame - this is probably the only brand where those kinds of game with playing with allocations and customers is going on.

    really sad .....


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    8-apr-2018 9.11.43

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    thierry:

    Small update : got to the lottery at my dealer to get the RS.

    Unfortunately not winner - very pissed with the brand right now : while favoriting both flippers and people who,just want one for making money, others are left down the road.

    I'm very pissed and then likelihood that I sell my 4.0 and go to another band is high - what a shame - this is probably the only brand where those kinds of game with playing with allocations and customers is going on.

    really sad .....

    sorry to hear that...but let me tell you that ferrari is also there in terms of the allocation-merry-go-round

    8-apr-2018 9.47.15

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    pmarkow:
     

    sorry to hear that...but let me tell you that ferrari is also there in terms of the allocation-merry-go-round

    Yes and No, and I know there are market to market variances. However, if you consistently spend money with Ferrari they ( the factory, that is) know who you are and cars will be allocated to you. The same cannot be said of Porsche with all the provisos of far greater volumes etc. I have been offered 5 GT2RS's in the last three weeks alone. All from the "top" clients of dealerships who got the allocations. Shame on all involved.

    8-apr-2018 10.41.52

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    bobr:

    I found it to be very stunning in real life. I would tone down the interior look by going with black seat inserts as opposed to the lizard green seat inserts.  Also, might eliminate the model decal on the doors. My good friend has ordered his GT3 RS in white with the Weissach Package.  My apologies for the delayed response to your questio

    thanks.  I did make a request to have the seats black. On the .1 you could choose orange or black when taking the colored inside but on .2 it is only green seats. Will see if my request gets through.  Also thaught decals could be too much with WP and LG. 

    That is still my order but leaning strongly at the moment for black. 


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    8-apr-2018 11.40.38

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
     

    Yes and No, and I know there are market to market variances. However, if you consistently spend money with Ferrari they ( the factory, that is) know who you are and cars will be allocated to you. The same cannot be said of Porsche with all the provisos of far greater volumes etc. I have been offered 5 GT2RS's in the last three weeks alone. All from the "top" clients of dealerships who got the allocations. Shame on all involved.

    I've seen the "advertised" prices but can you share how much would actually buy one of these flipped cars ? 

    Purely as a now spectator with a morbid interest Smiley

     


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    8-apr-2018 11.47.05

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

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    crayphile:
     

    Yes and No, and I know there are market to market variances. However, if you consistently spend money with Ferrari they ( the factory, that is) know who you are and cars will be allocated to you. The same cannot be said of Porsche with all the provisos of far greater volumes etc. I have been offered 5 GT2RS's in the last three weeks alone. All from the "top" clients of dealerships who got the allocations. Shame on all involved.

    I've seen the "advertised" prices but can you share how much would actually buy one of these flipped cars ? 

    Purely as a now spectator with a morbid interest Smiley

     

    PM sent so as not to pollute the 3RS thread!

    8-apr-2018 12.17.31

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    TB993tt:
    crayphile:
     

    Yes and No, and I know there are market to market variances. However, if you consistently spend money with Ferrari they ( the factory, that is) know who you are and cars will be allocated to you. The same cannot be said of Porsche with all the provisos of far greater volumes etc. I have been offered 5 GT2RS's in the last three weeks alone. All from the "top" clients of dealerships who got the allocations. Shame on all involved.

    I've seen the "advertised" prices but can you share how much would actually buy one of these flipped cars ? 

    Purely as a now spectator with a morbid interest Smiley

     

    PM sent so as not to pollute the 3RS thread!

    Agree, my guess - around 350k...?


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    8-apr-2018 14.07.32

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Is there a point when we can all agree on the concept “too much car”? The GT2 RS strikes me as such a car. yes


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    8-apr-2018 14.28.05

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    nberry:

    Is there a point when we can all agree on the concept “too much car”? The GT2 RS strikes me as such a car. yes

    See a couple at my OPC and thought it looked stunning. Real mans car Smiley..


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    8-apr-2018 15.57.12

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    pmarkow:
     

    sorry to hear that...but let me tell you that ferrari is also there in terms of the allocation-merry-go-round

    Yes and No, and I know there are market to market variances. However, if you consistently spend money with Ferrari they ( the factory, that is) know who you are and cars will be allocated to you. 

    i believe that but i was taken on a ride by a ferrari dealer matching the best ferrari-world in abu dhabi has to offer. for ferrari's defense i have to say that he is not a ferrari dealer anymore. anyway, what happened is totally inconceivable for a PC.

    8-apr-2018 16.03.26

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Good luck and look forward to seeing delivery pictures.


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    8-apr-2018 16.12.34

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    pmarkow:
     

    sorry to hear that...but let me tell you that ferrari is also there in terms of the allocation-merry-go-round

    Yes and No, and I know there are market to market variances. However, if you consistently spend money with Ferrari they ( the factory, that is) know who you are and cars will be allocated to you. The same cannot be said of Porsche with all the provisos of far greater volumes etc. I have been offered 5 GT2RS's in the last three weeks alone. All from the "top" clients of dealerships who got the allocations. Shame on all involved.

    and somehow i think these offers to you may not have been at msrp.....

    8-apr-2018 16.34.10

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    thierry:

    Small update : got to the lottery at my dealer to get the RS.

    Unfortunately not winner - very pissed with the brand right now : while favoriting both flippers and people who,just want one for making money, others are left down the road.

    I'm very pissed and then likelihood that I sell my 4.0 and go to another band is high - what a shame - this is probably the only brand where those kinds of game with playing with allocations and customers is going on.

    really sad .....

    Be patient. There will be more allocations coming. It's always the same game and I also fell for it.

    However, if you can't wait, get the Performante Smiley


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    8-apr-2018 19.39.22

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gauss

    I had a test drive this Friday : the car is amazing ..... very tempting.

    frankly : another league compared to the Gt3. More tricky as well Smiley

    But man that sound .... and that V10 ......Smiley


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    9-apr-2018 0.19.04

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Oh well. Honestly though, why do you want a gt3 RS if you have a 4.0? Also, why not just go get a .1 RS? If you just want a faster car, buy a 720s.

    I dont understand the massive demand for these new Porsche RS cars. They aren't manuals,  they aren't the fastest, and each new one is less involving than the previous, so why is it so important to have the latest one? The .1 will be 97% as fast if you just put the new tires on it.

    From what I can tell, the .2 RS is more body kit than it is performance with respect to the .1

    9-apr-2018 0.26.20

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    The .1 has a crap motor. The .2 is in a totally different league. The best thing to do with the .1 is to trade for the .2 as soon as possible. 

    9-apr-2018 1.26.19

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Crap motor how? I don't recall seeing many complaints about the .1 RS motor. Some members on here have them and they don't seem to be dying to get rid of them...

    Is the .2 motor better? Probably, but the 992.1 GT3 motor will be better again, so you'll be dying to dump the .2 as well...

    9-apr-2018 2.45.36

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    noone1:

    Oh well. Honestly though, why do you want a gt3 RS if you have a 4.0? Also, why not just go get a .1 RS? If you just want a faster car, buy a 720s.

    I dont understand the massive demand for these new Porsche RS cars. They aren't manuals,  they aren't the fastest, and each new one is less involving than the previous, so why is it so important to have the latest one? The .1 will be 97% as fast if you just put the new tires on it.

    From what I can tell, the .2 RS is more body kit than it is performance with respect to the .1

    Good question. I opted for the .2RS because it looks so much more aggressive than the GT3, has more power, performance and holds it value better than the GT3. I am paying about $40,000 more for the RS. Is it worth it? I’ll find out when I take delivery at the end of October this year. kiss


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    9-apr-2018 10.58.33

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Gnil:
    RC:

    Just heard of two guys in Germany getting a 991.2 GT3 RS with Weissach package in June and July. Confirmed!

    Under 250 cars for Germany total (first batch)...similar to GT2 RS...

    Not sure why you post this .... quite a few have their cars confirmed. 

    Cause some people couldn't order the Weissach package for a first batch order and I also wanted to point out that the first batch is limited in numbers but second batch will get more cars. Meaning: Don't give hopes up, more cars are coming in after the summer vacation.


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    9-apr-2018 11.15.10

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    People thinking at very limited GT3RS are just dreaming of  flat earth smiley

    they will pump them up to the last one without a doubt.

    I early reported that they will go at least up to november and we can see that now they will go up to 2019.

    the sky is the limit. GT3 is ending in few months as well as GT2RS so there will be space kiss


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    9-apr-2018 11.17.49

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    the-missile:

    People thinking at very limited GT3RS are just dreaming of  flat earth smiley

    they will pump them up to the last one without a doubt.

    I early reported that they will go at least up to november and we can see that now they will go up to 2019.

    the sky is the limit. GT3 is ending in few months as well as GT2RS so there will be space kiss

    Even for the UK market ?SmileySmiley

    9-apr-2018 12.56.41

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    crayphile:
    the-missile:

    People thinking at very limited GT3RS are just dreaming of  flat earth smiley

    they will pump them up to the last one without a doubt.

    I early reported that they will go at least up to november and we can see that now they will go up to 2019.

    the sky is the limit. GT3 is ending in few months as well as GT2RS so there will be space kiss

    Even for the UK market ?SmileySmiley

    You will definitively have more GT3RS in UK than GT2RS... make your own math. Smiley


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    10-apr-2018 15.51.55

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    No shiny green car for Dave either laugh


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    10-apr-2018 16.01.28

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    DaveGordon:

    No shiny green car for Dave either laugh

    You couldn't get a .2GT3RS allocation?Smiley


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    10-apr-2018 16.14.07

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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)

    Nope. Strung me along for a couple of months and finally got a 'no'.


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