Jan 2, 2008 1:19:54 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
I know what you mean Carlos but Audi won Le Mans with a diesel! I know it's crazy but, as a technological exercise, it proved that Audi has what it takes
Jan 2, 2008 5:00:13 PM
Jan 2, 2008 5:15:19 PM
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KresoF1 said:
Simply horrible...
Can you imagine pulling up to a gas station with that and saying, fill it up with diesel please
Jan 2, 2008 5:36:15 PM
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Jan 2, 2008 9:12:01 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
I know what you mean Carlos but Audi won Le Mans with a diesel! I know it's crazy but, as a technological exercise, it proved that Audi has what it takes
Jan 3, 2008 4:25:04 PM
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Jan 4, 2008 2:24:30 AM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Why race cars are all petrol engines? (Le Mans doesn't count b/c fuel milage not performace was the determining factor ... sad but true, and uless people start to judge sportcars for their milage intead of handling and overall driving experience, that doesn't apply).
Why hard core sportcars and supercars do not have diesel engines?
It comical, to put a diesel on a high-end sportcar. Lets ask Ferrai what they think, or Pagani, or WW, or Askari, etc.
Diesel engines may have great milage, they may have great torque, but they behave as the opposite as what a sportscar engine stands for... high rev range & high engine speeds (besides the sound, nothing sounds good at just 4 revs and much less a diesel engine, or weight, tolerances need to be higher on a diesel and that implies heavier engine, etc).
In terms of sportcars and performance, torque means nothing if it its at the expense of a rev range and engine speed, and that is what a diesel engine does, why do the Formula One cars sacrifice so much torque for high HP and rev speeds? why do truck & tractors do the opposite?
Paper figures are one thing but real life is another. Frankly, I personally find this an insult to sportcar enthusiasts.
Jan 4, 2008 2:21:09 PM
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BjoernB said:Carlos,
No offend but you must be one of those guys who are crying out the loudest by any change. Probably from 964 design to 993 from 993 design to 996 from hardcore "aircooled" fan to firstly hated watercooled - to 997 S (!) lover with no thought of 997 basic since the 3.8 Liter revs so much higher than the 3.6 and delivers tremedously more punch after 7000 rpm etc etc...
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Maybe Tturbo is also nothing for you since it kills the sporty feeling of high revving Trackcars like a 997 GT3 ? So what is then the reason for turbocharging ? HP only ???
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Anyhow, I am sure that things will change (see Merc's DiesOtto Engine) and if Horacio wil have customers demanding a 1000nm engine in a 1200kg car doing 12L/100km he will surely build that Tractor...
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