King of the Ring 7:24
Can you say B|_|LLSHIT in Japanese ?
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/214086/lexus_lfa.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/28/lexus-lf-a-unseats-porsche-gt2-as-king-of-the-ring
Dec 28, 2007 8:40:36 PM
Dec 28, 2007 8:47:13 PM
Dec 28, 2007 8:48:04 PM
Dec 28, 2007 10:32:45 PM
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ADias said:
Correct! Autoblog reports it HERE.
PAG watch out! It's very sad what's going on at PAG for the last few years - absent from motorsports, building trucks and sedans and catering to boulevardiers and poseurs only interested in metal/wood/leather girllie trim. Sad indeed!
Dec 28, 2007 11:39:37 PM
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MKSGR said:3) In addition to the above: It is entirely unlikely that a Lexus with less power than a GT2 will come even close to the GT2's lap times.
I thought the GT2 has less power than the Lexus (552hp)...
Dec 29, 2007 12:35:37 AM
Dec 29, 2007 3:04:29 PM
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MKSGR said:3) In addition to the above: It is entirely unlikely that a Lexus with less power than a GT2 will come even close to the GT2's lap times.
I thought the GT2 has less power than the Lexus (552hp)...
Hey! Don't confuse us with the facts.
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throt said:
The Jap's are catching up the big boy's , we have seen recent hints of it already...
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AUM said:
Now that Nissan has proved it can beat the 911 Turbo, it makes a lot of corporate sense for Toyota to go gunning for the GT2.
Dec 29, 2007 10:33:47 PM
Dec 29, 2007 11:23:11 PM
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U Boat Commander said:
People keep calling BS on these new Japanese cars and get all worked up about it. IMO, it's great news for car enthusiasts. It only means that performance is going up and prices are coming down. I've been a Porsche owner for over 12 years and I would jump to that LF-A in a second if the performance numbers are true and it has the right price point. The test mule looks great IMO.
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AUM said:The Japanese are ascending to the peak of sports car performance and look set to win in several important categories.
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The Porsche Turbo has been far ahead of its rivals for many years but has been soundly beaten at its own game by the GT-R.
The 2008 Subaru Sti sets new performance standards for a five-door econo hatch.
The Lexus may just be a concept but it is only a matter of (a short) time until the new GT2 is beaten at the Ring by a Japanese car (maybe the lightweight GT-R).
The Japanese are ascending to the peak of sports car performance and look set to win in several important categories.
Factor in the upcoming ZR1 and we have a new era of increased competition at the highest level, which is great for car lovers.
Dec 30, 2007 10:19:53 AM
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AUM said:The Japanese are ascending to the peak of sports car performance and look set to win in several important categories.
I agree, the new Japanese cars have impressed me. It's also nice that the Yen is about as worthless a currency as the US Dollar, so it bodes well for US pricing for now and in the future (GT-R is about half as much as 997TT here).
Jan 7, 2008 4:31:54 PM
Jan 8, 2008 2:18:34 PM
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MarekN said:
If this time is meant to be like the video to the "record-beating" time of the GT-R, where the start and finish time are taken at different places, then I am going back to winter hibernation, please.
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MarekN said:
If this time is meant to be like the video to the "record-beating" time of the GT-R, where the start and finish time are taken at different places, then I am going back to winter hibernation, please.
Umm, that's how all Ring times are calculated...
Jan 9, 2008 7:32:17 PM
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AUM said:The Japanese are ascending to the peak of sports car performance and look set to win in several important categories.
I agree, the new Japanese cars have impressed me. It's also nice that the Yen is about as worthless a currency as the US Dollar, so it bodes well for US pricing for now and in the future (GT-R is about half as much as 997TT here).
If the japanese come back to the high-sportcar scene (its not the first time though it died away in the last decade... there was the age of the Supra, 300ZX, NSX, Skyline, etc) this can only mean good things for Porsche enthusiasts and for the other european maker enthusiasts, because we will get more for our money in future models since there will be more competition, and the market will be forced to offer more.
Unfortunately I don't see these japanese sportcars creating any real competition in terms of overall sales, since I don't see them as big sellers, especially in Europe. And sales is what makers only care for but maybe in the rest of the world it will hopefully.
Jan 9, 2008 8:22:33 PM
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nberry said:
Carlos, why should Porsche change? People like yourself as well as other are diehard Porschephiles and will buy a Porsche regardless of the competition. As a result, Porsche will continue with its policy of incremental styling change, performance increase and pricing. They know their customers and have nothing to fear.