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Dec 13, 2007 4:44:50 PM
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The Groom said:
It's still an option (even at no-cost) - and there's a reason they call it the sport chassis.
Dec 13, 2007 10:11:27 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
I have to say that, before the 997 GT3 came out, Walter Rohrl stated in an interview with Chris Harris that his favourite suspension set up was a 997S with -20mm. If Walter Rohrl thought that then I'm seriously unlikely to be persuaded by anyone else that Walter Rohrl is mistaken and that they have a better, more credible view......But, at the end of the day, we're each spending our own money so which set up one chooses for oneself has to depend solely upon one's own needs/requirements and what one is used to.
Dec 14, 2007 11:58:59 AM
Dec 16, 2007 2:42:10 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
Which magazine was it? I just checked GT Purely Porsche and also 911 & Porsche World. Neither magazine had the article in it. Was it Total 911?
I have to say that, before the 997 GT3 came out, Walter Rohrl stated in an interview with Chris Harris that his favourite suspension set up was a 997S with -20mm. If Walter Rohrl thought that then I'm seriously unlikely to be persuaded by anyone else that Walter Rohrl is mistaken and that they have a better, more credible view.
Anyway, I've driven my -20mm 997S for over 10000 miles on all sorts of roads (city, A road, B road and motorway) in the UK and abroad and I can honestly say, without a single moment's hesitation, that it is a fabulous suspension set up.
One key factor that people often fail to appreciate is that the choice between -20mm sports suspension and PASM is not just about ride comfort. The -20mm set up determines handling, steering feel and feedback, the seat-of-the-pants feedback one gets, the speed of response to steering inputs (i.e. actual agility and sharpness) and the 'perception' of nimbleness and agility one has as a result. The degree of responsiveness of the steering also determines how 'alive' the steering feels. Another interesting fact is that with a steering this responsive, it is also necessary to watch out for how the road surface affects steering stability that much more carefully. It might seem like more hard work (in terms of steering effort) BUT it makes the whole driving experience more involving.
In my view, with cars today becoming ever 'softer' and easier to live with so that niche sports car makers can appeal to a wider segment of the market, the -20mm sports suspension is THE suspension set up that the 997 Carrera S should always have had from the start. (A bit like the perception that the X51 Powerkit is what the Carrera S should be like as standard). PASM Normal is just too soft IMO and PASM Sport is much too stiff with no 'give' to it. It is like a rubber band that has already been stretched to full extension. It has no elasticity left.
Coming back to the article (which I wish I could read so that I can see if I understand the reasoning behind it), I cannot see how a journalist and a professional race driver can appreciate all this in one day's drive of a Porsche GB press fleet car. The reason why people like me, Carlos from Spain, Gnil, Fanch, loe, Florent Kavadas, Lukas, bluelines, JJBlade (and formerly RC, Sergini) etc all rave about the -20mm suspension is simply because we have had much more opportunity to explore it. After all, we've all driven a car with this -20mm suspension for thousands of miles in all conditions.
Yes, this is an impassioned post. Yes, I totally respect the fact that others may have a different opinion to me and that they are fully entitled to have that opinion. BUT that doesn't mean for one instant that, in my eyes, their opinion has the same weight as mine.
But, at the end of the day, we're each spending our own money so which set up one chooses for oneself has to depend solely upon one's own needs/requirements and what one is used to.
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