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Re: AM Unvelis V8 RS
Dec 11, 2007 5:26:32 PM
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Dec 12, 2007 2:22:35 PM
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Re: AM Unvelis V8 RS
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And the purpose of this car?
I dont see it as a GT series car as AM would not want to trash the DBRS9/ DBR9 customers....
Any thoughts?...would'nt mind the tail lights for my Vantage though!
The point of this car is an excersize by aston martin to show what they can do. If the car reaches production it will have to be in very limited quantities at that price point (article says it will be more expensive than the DBS which means it is well north of $200kUSD)
Club racers that want a hardcore vantage already have the N24 racer. The N400 that was recently announced also is a higher tuned version of the vantage for the road.
This car also has the side skirts from the N24 racecar. It is a clear statement from aston that it is an even more hardcore version of said racecar, but legalized for the road.
This extremely hardcore model can only be seen as a very special edition to entice affluent aston collectors, they will likely make less than 100, judging from the stagnant inventory and also the economy in general, the market can't sustain a car like this on a mass production scale, nor will buyers of this car tolerate mass production at this price point.
I doubt the DBRS9's engine will make it to production in this car, but if it is produced, I wouldn't be surprised to see a detuned/lightened/higher revving version of the current DB9 V12 inside this car.
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Hm, IMHO it's getting ridiculous with all those AM special/limited models. V8 Prodrive, V8 N400, DB9 LM, DBS... now "V8 RS"... if Astons are selling so well as they claim, why is there a need for this?
Because everyone else is doing it
.. witness Porsche GT-3/2, RS, Gallardo SL, wait for more special versions of the R8, etc... I assume it is a (profitable) way to appeal to a buyer who wants a more limited version of a car they already like, and can pay for the extra exclusivity.The paradox is... my guess is that these "collectible" and limited versions are not in fact kept long term in many buyers' collections - rather they seem to be flipped very quickly more often than the stock versions are. I admit no data to support this, but this is a strong impression from various forums and from what turns up in used car sales. Do these "exclusive" buyers have shorter attention spans?
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Hm, IMHO it's getting ridiculous with all those AM special/limited models. V8 Prodrive, V8 N400, DB9 LM, DBS... now "V8 RS"... if Astons are selling so well as they claim, why is there a need for this?
Because everyone else is doing it
The paradox is... my guess is that these "collectible" and limited versions are not in fact kept long term in many buyers' collections - rather they seem to be flipped very quickly more often than the stock versions are. I admit no data to support this, but this is a strong impression from various forums and from what turns up in used car sales. Do these "exclusive" buyers have shorter attention spans?
I agree that everyone is doing it, but your example using the Porsche GT2/3 is incorrect, those are valid, high performance derivatives that are established and respected niche models, like the M3 is to a regular 3 series.
However, making tons of special editions with no real value, such as the Cayman Porsche design edition 1/2(?), Boxster orange edition, rs60 boxster, cayenne GTS...
Those are simply digging into their rich history and making a pathetic excuse to try to sell more cars.
I believe the Aston N400 is a way to offer a "facelift" while still offering the original car for sale at a slightly lower price point, it also revives interest in the current model lineup.
In relation to this thread, Aston martin is having oversupply issues with their current model lineup.
Most dealers have anywhere from 6-12 V8 Vantages (1/2 to 3/4 being roadsters now) and 3-5 DB9 (half and half coupe/volante)
Not sure about the DB9, but people are getting as much as 10k USD off of a new V8 vantage, as much as 12-15 on an untitled one from the previous model year.
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