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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Well, I like the appearance of the 991.1 RS better and will keep my UV one. As for the 991.2, I don’t like front end above the lip spoiler, don’t like the wheel design, don’t like those NASCAR hood vents nor the wing struts. Sorry, and even worse they will again flood the market if they sell well.
Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Whoopsy:And look at that pic to see how big modern 911 has become?
Yep, I see that comparison every time I open the garage - very big difference!
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
dertub:Next time I might just restore something old!!
or just buy something older. difference is big on RS still noticeable on regular 3 but 991 is a big car.
would not be easy to look backward though as older version are way more tricky to drive as fast as 991
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
the-missile:dertub:Next time I might just restore something old!!
or just buy something older. difference is big on RS still noticeable on regular 3 but 991 is a big car.
would not be easy to look backward though as older version are way more tricky to drive as fast as 991
And that, is what makes them the perfect Sunday drive car. One don't need to go fast to enjoy them, the feeling of conquering the car is more satisfying.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
dertub:I totally agree. Porsche is ignoring a large part of their loyal customers over the years. I am not looking for a muscle car made to satisfy demand.
Be that as it may, the demand for what they are producing from the GT division far outstrips supply.
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Whoopsy:SciFrog:In that pic the newer cars look ridiculously big...
Cause they really are big!
When I have my 911R and the Turbo 3.6 side by side, the 3.6 can fit easily inside the 911R footprint. And the 3.6 already have the wide body.
Can’t imagine how much larger the 992 will be when compared with its predecessors.
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nberry:WTF! Those of you into small nimble cars go buy a Boxster, GT4 or Miata. Take it to the track and smell the exhaust of a proper Porsche's while your smiling teeth get soot.
Nick, seriously, got get a drive in one of the old air-cooled cars.
I mean a proper one, not one of those junkers on Craigslist listed for cheap.
Do a Sunday drive with no traffic, on Muholland Dirive or something similar. You will understands.
The car is small by modern standard, the car is barbarian compared to modern cars, BUT, it's the experience. You own;t even have to drive fast.
Today, I drove up to my other house in Whistler after dinner to swap cars. I took my Odyssey, a minivan, to swap for my 3.6. I managed the trip in a lot less than 2hrs in the minivan, and I came back in the 3.6 in more than 2 hrs. (It's about 80 miles and I did have aftermarket wheels and tires on the minivan, the van rides on Continental Extreme Contact DWS, so I can take corners a lot faster than normal vans, I overtook basically every car I have seen and they are like WTF being passed by a VAN).
I wasn't even trying to go fast in the 3.6, I could have but there is no need, the experience is better than anything else I have in my garage.
The smell, the imperfect gearbox, the whine of the fan sound of the air-cooled engine, the fucked up ergonomics inside the car, I couldn't care less. The only thing I enjoy was the journey, the experience, the feel of accomplishment in conquering the car.
Oh, and I already have a modern small and nimble car as in the Alfa 4C.
At times it's not about the speed, it's about the 'experience'
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
nberry:WTF! Those of you into small nimble cars go buy a Boxster, GT4 or Miata. Take it to the track and smell the exhaust of a proper Porsche's while your smiling teeth get soot.
Miata yes, but I wouldn‘t call a Boxster or a GT4 small and nimble. Small and nimble are words to characterise a Miata, an Alfa 4C or a Lotus Elise/Exige, but the 718 range is already something in-between. 
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
the-missile:Whoopsy:At times it's not about the speed, it's about the 'experience'
--You need to spend some time in your winged manual GT3, it is all about the experience
I left my winged manual GT3 at home and went for a Sunday drive with a 69' 2.0 S , more fun at lower and legal speeds (fun is subjective so to each his own). Steering feel, mechanical injection , engine response and sound are truly unique plus it is very light (~985 Kg). And I agree the 2.7 RS is the one to have.
Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Nick. It all depends on what you want in a performance sport car. The big fat Porsche’s of today are more nimble, significantly faster, sound better, safer and more comfortable than the dinosaurs of yesteryear. Though I think I understand your view point, personally I find the older cars nothing more than nostalgic relics and belong in a museum.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Gnil:Carlos from Spain:
They complement each other very well.
Both old and new 911s are a dream to have, so to have both is really special. Few issues with old ones are their reliability, especially older 911s from 70s and 80, and the other thing is that many need lots of restoration and that can be expensive and time consuming.
I would like Porsche to start their own restorations of classic 911s, sell them for their original prices (plus inflation) 
, one more thing, and put proper ACs in them.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Whoopsy:nberry:WTF! Those of you into small nimble cars go buy a Boxster, GT4 or Miata. Take it to the track and smell the exhaust of a proper Porsche's while your smiling teeth get soot.
Nick, seriously, got get a drive in one of the old air-cooled cars.
I mean a proper one, not one of those junkers on Craigslist listed for cheap.
Do a Sunday drive with no traffic, on Muholland Dirive or something similar. You will understands.
The car is small by modern standard, the car is barbarian compared to modern cars, BUT, it's the experience. You own;t even have to drive fast.
Today, I drove up to my other house in Whistler after dinner to swap cars. I took my Odyssey, a minivan, to swap for my 3.6. I managed the trip in a lot less than 2hrs in the minivan, and I came back in the 3.6 in more than 2 hrs. (It's about 80 miles and I did have aftermarket wheels and tires on the minivan, the van rides on Continental Extreme Contact DWS, so I can take corners a lot faster than normal vans, I overtook basically every car I have seen and they are like WTF being passed by a VAN).
I wasn't even trying to go fast in the 3.6, I could have but there is no need, the experience is better than anything else I have in my garage.
The smell, the imperfect gearbox, the whine of the fan sound of the air-cooled engine, the fucked up ergonomics inside the car, I couldn't care less. The only thing I enjoy was the journey, the experience, the feel of accomplishment in conquering the car.
Oh, and I already have a modern small and nimble car as in the Alfa 4C.
At times it's not about the speed, it's about the 'experience'
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Agree, it is about the experience. One can sit in a modern car bunched in traffic but give me the opportunity to take one of the pre-war MGs for a spin on a country lane or even bumpy city streets late evening; that's the joy of motoring. A couple of decades ago, had the privilege of having a Frazer Nash Le Mans Replica for a time, that car was special and a joy to drive. Today's cars are mere appliances, safer yes and more convenient yes, but lacking in any visceral emotion.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Have you driven a modern GT Porsche?
I have driven older Porsche's and they smell, are rickety and very uncomfortable. I suppose you could buy a Singer but do so you're modernizing the car.
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nberry:Have you driven a modern GT Porsche?
I have driven older Porsche's and they smell, are rickety and very uncomfortable. I suppose you could buy a Singer but do so you're modernizing the car.
Have and found them extremely competent but a bit too clinical and sterile.
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nberry:Have you driven a modern GT Porsche?
I have driven older Porsche's and they smell, are rickety and very uncomfortable. I suppose you could buy a Singer but do so you're modernizing the car.
Believe it or not, the seats in my 3.6 is way more comfortable than any of the modern Porsche seats, well maybe the Cayenne seat comes close.
Oh, and the old cars, with less power, means I can floor the car without getting into much trouble 
I will be in jail if I do that with any of the newer ones.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
Whoopsy:nberry:Have you driven a modern GT Porsche?
I have driven older Porsche's and they smell, are rickety and very uncomfortable. I suppose you could buy a Singer but do so you're modernizing the car.
Believe it or not, the seats in my 3.6 is way more comfortable than any of the modern Porsche seats, well maybe the Cayenne seat comes close.
Oh, and the old cars, with less power, means I can floor the car without getting into much trouble
I will be in jail if I do that with any of the newer ones.
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Re: OFFICIAL: 991.2 GT3 RS (2018)
the-missile:Whoopsy:At times it's not about the speed, it's about the 'experience'
--You need to spend some time in your winged manual GT3, it is all about the experience
That's the one car I have not driven regularly.
It is precise, but very sterile. The car is exciting, do everything I want it to do perfectly, but there lies the problem, too good for it's own good By itself is is a very exciting car. But it has tough crowd and standard in my place. It doesn't have the quirks of the Aston, nor the experience of the 3.6. While it's sort of in the same cloth as the 911R, it isn't, they drive differently and for me I think I like the 911R feel more than the GT3.
The GT3 is too perfect, I think the 911R was already too perfect compared to the Aston, the GT3 improved on that perfectness, not sure how but it did. I can't even put a foot wrong in it. There are turns that I got the 911R out of shape but the GT3 is planted through the same turns.
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