Jan 12, 2018 1:29:15 PM
Jan 12, 2018 1:38:40 PM
Jan 12, 2018 2:28:58 PM
They go back to have those lines on top of the hood. Like on the old 963. Interesting are those wider wheel arches. Looking forward to understand how they deal with it in the final product.
As we all know, Porsche is keeping their body/frame always for two build iterations. So we knew that the 992 will be a "bigger facelift" instead of a brand new car. I hope that the next car will be a more tremendous update. Maybe increased carbon fiber usage in the chassis? I mean, we are talking about 7 years from now. Until then the cars are more likely all to have a Autonomous Level 4 mode. I also think we will see a lot of EV components until then. Means- next generation must be a bigger upgrade in any sense.
Jan 12, 2018 3:01:01 PM
Jan 12, 2018 3:02:39 PM
CGX car nut:RC:What facelift?
Remember last time when Porsche marketing stressed new exterior door handle design, so anything new is under the ever blotting shape.
Porsche is like Apple. They change a tiny fart and make a big boom about. So expect minor instead of major steps!
Lars997:They go back to have those lines on top of the hood. Like on the old 963. Interesting are those wider wheel arches. Looking forward to understand how they deal with it in the final product.
As we all know, Porsche is keeping their body/frame always for two build iterations. So we knew that the 992 will be a "bigger facelift" instead of a brand new car. I hope that the next car will be a more tremendous update. Maybe increased carbon fiber usage in the chassis? I mean, we are talking about 7 years from now. Until then the cars are more likely all to have a Autonomous Level 4 mode. I also think we will see a lot of EV components until then. Means- next generation must be a bigger upgrade in any sense.
The 992 is based on a completely new base - not just a facelift... It looks like a minor facelift, though
Lars997:CGX car nut:RC:What facelift?
Remember last time when Porsche marketing stressed new exterior door handle design, so anything new is under the ever blotting shape.
Porsche is like Apple. They change a tiny fart and make a big boom about. So expect minor instead of major steps!
I could argue that you are wrong but then, we'd have to conduct a very long discussion about it and the weekend is close, so...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
MKSGR:Lars997:They go back to have those lines on top of the hood. Like on the old 963. Interesting are those wider wheel arches. Looking forward to understand how they deal with it in the final product.
As we all know, Porsche is keeping their body/frame always for two build iterations. So we knew that the 992 will be a "bigger facelift" instead of a brand new car. I hope that the next car will be a more tremendous update. Maybe increased carbon fiber usage in the chassis? I mean, we are talking about 7 years from now. Until then the cars are more likely all to have a Autonomous Level 4 mode. I also think we will see a lot of EV components until then. Means- next generation must be a bigger upgrade in any sense.
The 992 is based on a completely new base - not just a facelift... It looks like a minor facelift, though
Guys, just wait. There are no real photos out there in the wild yet.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Jan 12, 2018 7:11:52 PM
Jan 24, 2018 12:18:42 PM
Last night when I was driving from the airport back home, a 992 mule was overtaking me. Car was hardly camouflaged. Looks very wide and bullish. The rear lights looked different (lights on) compared to the 991. Had an aggressive look. Had the spoiler up, which was build all around, more integrated as today. Had the car only 1 min. ahead of me, I was on the left lane with apprx. 200km/h but he was passing by with much higher speed. Also - the car sounded very very noisy. Sorry - couldn't make pictures, everything went too fast.
Jan 24, 2018 2:39:59 PM
So was it the Turbo ? The above pics looks like the Turbo .
The car is insanely wide ! I wonder if those flat parts on the fender will stay . Looks a bit like add ons
But even on the spy pics of the Carrera's it is clear the was will be much wider then the current one .
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991 GT3 RS
Jan 25, 2018 9:10:20 AM
Paulo_Rangel_Melo:992 Turbo spied with Production Body.
More photos here (https://www.motor1.com/news/228267/2019-porsche-911-turbo-spied/)
I suppose a reveal for the 992 Carrera´s might happen in the next 3/4 months?
Regards.
This is not the production body...
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Turbo could come earlier than in previous new generation model introductions. Not at the same time with the first models, the Carrera and Carrera S though.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
I just found this pic: Check the car in the front. Thats the car I did see! Number plate 133 - it looks like not having camouflage on top of the vender. And again - Vender is really wide. Also, the exhausts are two of them looking like on a Audi RS6/7. It might be a Carrera. The car I seen was super noisy, sounded very loud. Still could hear it after it was that far ahead of me that I hardly couldn't see it anymore.
noone1:Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.
If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.
Not the final thing, don't worry.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Jan 25, 2018 3:47:55 PM
RC:noone1:Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.
If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.Not the final thing, don't worry.
But it is funny to imagine it looking like that. I wonder what extremes they could go to ugly up the mules so that the final product looks ‘perfect’ (I.e. just like the last one +1% 1963 911)
The Turbo will no longer try to keep up with the others with top end or max HP. (Actually stopped 10 years ago) It will be happy to be a 0-60 or 100 beast and serve up benchmark daily driver status. Which is a perfect place to be if you want volume sales. Look for Lamborghini to take up the HP and top speed wars
Jan 25, 2018 4:02:48 PM
Jan 25, 2018 4:15:16 PM
Leawood911:RC:noone1:Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.
If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.Not the final thing, don't worry.
But it is funny to imagine it looking like that. I wonder what extremes they could go to ugly up the mules so that the final product looks ‘perfect’ (I.e. just like the last one +1% 1963 911)
The Turbo will no longer try to keep up with the others with top end or max HP. (Actually stopped 10 years ago) It will be happy to be a 0-60 or 100 beast and serve up benchmark daily driver status. Which is a perfect place to be if you want volume sales. Look for Lamborghini to take up the HP and top speed wars
Correct and why the Huracan replacement is said to go with a carbon fiber tub design. This makes the Audi R8 a difficult proposition, from a cost standpoint, and why its demise is imminent; however, platform sharing with the Aventador replacement is more likely, in the mold of McLaren’s approach.
Jan 26, 2018 8:35:08 AM
CGX car nut:Leawood911:RC:noone1:Maybe it's just me, but it looks way too wide. Almost like a tuner aftermarket widebody kit.
If you want a wide car, make it wide everywhere and graceful. This just looks like extruding the fenders.Not the final thing, don't worry.
But it is funny to imagine it looking like that. I wonder what extremes they could go to ugly up the mules so that the final product looks ‘perfect’ (I.e. just like the last one +1% 1963 911)
The Turbo will no longer try to keep up with the others with top end or max HP. (Actually stopped 10 years ago) It will be happy to be a 0-60 or 100 beast and serve up benchmark daily driver status. Which is a perfect place to be if you want volume sales. Look for Lamborghini to take up the HP and top speed wars
Correct and why the Huracan replacement is said to go with a carbon fiber tub design. This makes the Audi R8 a difficult proposition, from a cost standpoint, and why its demise is imminent; however, platform sharing with the Aventador replacement is more likely, in the mold of McLaren’s approach.
Not sure about that carbon fiber tub design though, VW Group has long pockets but short arms.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
bobr:RC - Any news on the rumored new manual transmission? Will it be launched with the 992 or be part of the model refresh?
Truth to be told, I heard that all 992 Carrera models (maybe with special edition exceptions) will be PDK only. GT models could get a manual version again, especially the GT3.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)