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Nov 10, 2007 6:04:19 PM
- Turbo4ever
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PandaMan said:
what about these wheels any idea who makes them, looking to get some more angles of them.
See the "Giovanna" in big letters in the background? That might be a good place to start.
IMO Chrome Wheels are too Bling on the Turbo.
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Quote:I think they are GFG wheels. I believe they are performance line of Giovanna. GFG wheels
PandaMan said:
what about these wheels any idea who makes them, looking to get some more angles of them.
Nov 11, 2007 2:33:43 AM
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meaker said:Quote:I think they are GFG wheels. I believe they are performance line of Giovanna. GFG wheels
PandaMan said:
what about these wheels any idea who makes them, looking to get some more angles of them.
thanks for the link, just make sure this is not the right one.
Nov 11, 2007 8:14:15 AM
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Are there all-season/ winter tires available that will fit on the stock factory rims?
Just trying to decide what to do w/ my factory wheels now, are they worth keeping?
Seem to remember hearing there's no winter tire that will fit but want to make sure......
Just trying to decide what to do w/ my factory wheels now, are they worth keeping?
Seem to remember hearing there's no winter tire that will fit but want to make sure......
Re: I think I've narrowed my After-Market Wheel Se
Andrea,
LOL. This thread has become a monster. All the info is here, you just have to dig for it.
(Off topic, my wife, who shares my love of Italy, got a chuckle looking at your signature line: La vita è troppo corta per non guidare italiano..... We got the basic meaning but what does "guidare" mean?)
Porsche Factory 997 Turbo
8.5x19" 23 lbs. 14 oz.
11x19" 28 lbs. 13 oz.
HRE M40 Monoblok
8.5x19" 21 lbs. 8 oz.
11x19" 24 lbs. 14 oz.
HRE M43 Monoblok
8.5x19" 21 lbs. 8 oz.
11x19" 25 lbs.
Champion 171:
20.1 Front
24.3 Rear
The Champion RG5 is even lighter, very impressively so. But it is not one piece forged AFAIK, and has chrome lips.
As mentioned, I don't have any direct experience, but have read that Magnesium wheel is softer and therefore more easily damaged for street use.
LOL. This thread has become a monster. All the info is here, you just have to dig for it.
(Off topic, my wife, who shares my love of Italy, got a chuckle looking at your signature line: La vita è troppo corta per non guidare italiano..... We got the basic meaning but what does "guidare" mean?)
Porsche Factory 997 Turbo
8.5x19" 23 lbs. 14 oz.
11x19" 28 lbs. 13 oz.
HRE M40 Monoblok
8.5x19" 21 lbs. 8 oz.
11x19" 24 lbs. 14 oz.
HRE M43 Monoblok
8.5x19" 21 lbs. 8 oz.
11x19" 25 lbs.
Champion 171:
20.1 Front
24.3 Rear
The Champion RG5 is even lighter, very impressively so. But it is not one piece forged AFAIK, and has chrome lips.
As mentioned, I don't have any direct experience, but have read that Magnesium wheel is softer and therefore more easily damaged for street use.
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andrea said:
what's the weight of Werks Champion Magnesium R171?Champion werks are ligher than HRE?
For comparison,Manthey BBS 19" Magnesium are 8.3kg (18,28lb)front und 9.3kg rear(20,48lb).
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STRADALE said:
Are there all-season/ winter tires available that will fit on the stock factory rims?
Just trying to decide what to do w/ my factory wheels now, are they worth keeping?
Seem to remember hearing there's no winter tire that will fit but want to make sure......
I believe there are at least 2 choices for you on winter tires, Continental TS810S and Nokian WR. Both have N0 designation for Porsche Approved.
If I remember correctly, W211 here have fitted Nokians on his 997 Turbo last winter and have nothing but praises for them. He made quite a few trips to Whistler on those tires.
Size will be 235/35/19 front and 295/30/19 rear.
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cannga said:
Andrea,
LOL. This thread has become a monster. All the info is here, you just have to dig for it.
(Off topic, my wife, who shares my love of Italy, got a chuckle looking at your signature line: La vita è troppo corta per non guidare italiano..... We got the basic meaning but what does "guidare" mean?)
Porsche Factory 997 Turbo
8.5x19" 23 lbs. 14 oz.
11x19" 28 lbs. 13 oz.
HRE M40 Monoblok
8.5x19" 21 lbs. 8 oz.
11x19" 24 lbs. 14 oz.
HRE M43 Monoblok
8.5x19" 21 lbs. 8 oz.
11x19" 25 lbs.
Champion 171:
20.1 Front
24.3 Rear
The Champion RG5 is even lighter, very impressively so. But it is not one piece forged AFAIK, and has chrome lips.
As mentioned, I don't have any direct experience, but have read that Magnesium wheel is softer and therefore more easily damaged for street use.Quote:
andrea said:
what's the weight of Werks Champion Magnesium R171?Champion werks are ligher than HRE?
For comparison,Manthey BBS 19" Magnesium are 8.3kg (18,28lb)front und 9.3kg rear(20,48lb).
Thanks Cannga! I missed in this topic the weight of 171,sorry...this is because I've asked for....next time I will read better the all topic
About off-topic question: guidare translation is To Drive...
you have to drive an italian car in your life 
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Whoopsy said:Quote:
STRADALE said:
Are there all-season/ winter tires available that will fit on the stock factory rims?
Just trying to decide what to do w/ my factory wheels now, are they worth keeping?
Seem to remember hearing there's no winter tire that will fit but want to make sure......
I believe there are at least 2 choices for you on winter tires, Continental TS810S and Nokian WR. Both have N0 designation for Porsche Approved.
If I remember correctly, W211 here have fitted Nokians on his 997 Turbo last winter and have nothing but praises for them. He made quite a few trips to Whistler on those tires.
Size will be 235/35/19 front and 295/30/19 rear.
That's great news, I didn't think there were winter tires available to fit the stock Turbo wheels. In that case it would probably be a good idea to keep my factory wheels & outfit them w/ winter tires. That way I'd have 2 sets of wheels & tires, one Champion set & the other factory wheels w/ winter tires for December to March.
Does it make any difference that it is not a Porsche approved tire?
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I'm not sure if it'd make a difference not to use Porsche approved tires but I like the fact that they've been tested extensively by Porsche engineers and are proven to work well with the car. That's why I'd rather stick with the "N" rated tires even though they're apparently only available through Porsche dealerships. I had to pay $700 more for my new PS2 tires than what they would've been sold for from Tire Rack if they were available there.
A local friend of mine checked to see what tires are available and apparently the Continentals were discontinued last year. This is what he had to say:
"Yes, I purchased Pirelli 240 SZ winter tires (235/35 19 and 295/30 19) - they fit the stock 997 Turbo wheels.
Here's what I learned through Walt at Tirerack (ext. 372):
The Continentals listed last year are being discontinued; although still in stock, if a tire had to be replaced later there's a risk none would be available and I have to replace all tires. Seemed like a reasonable concern.
The Nokian WR is an N0 rated tire; $1,302 for a set (I'm not sure this included delivery).
The Pirelli 240 SZ (Soto zero) is an N1 rated tire; $1,382.28 including delivery in Bellevue."
Now, you have to be VERY careful with those winter tires or any new tires when first mounted. He found that out the hard way a couple weeks ago on a drive with me and Larry. On a sharp corner I was able to negotiate that just fine but he didn't have enough grip and ended up going straight ahead into the cornfield and spinning out. He suffered very minor damages fortunately but that was definitely a lesson learned for him. Those winter tires do not have as much grip as the summer tires.
A local friend of mine checked to see what tires are available and apparently the Continentals were discontinued last year. This is what he had to say:
"Yes, I purchased Pirelli 240 SZ winter tires (235/35 19 and 295/30 19) - they fit the stock 997 Turbo wheels.
Here's what I learned through Walt at Tirerack (ext. 372):
The Continentals listed last year are being discontinued; although still in stock, if a tire had to be replaced later there's a risk none would be available and I have to replace all tires. Seemed like a reasonable concern.
The Nokian WR is an N0 rated tire; $1,302 for a set (I'm not sure this included delivery).
The Pirelli 240 SZ (Soto zero) is an N1 rated tire; $1,382.28 including delivery in Bellevue."
Now, you have to be VERY careful with those winter tires or any new tires when first mounted. He found that out the hard way a couple weeks ago on a drive with me and Larry. On a sharp corner I was able to negotiate that just fine but he didn't have enough grip and ended up going straight ahead into the cornfield and spinning out. He suffered very minor damages fortunately but that was definitely a lesson learned for him. Those winter tires do not have as much grip as the summer tires.
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Quote:
atomic80 said:
I'm not sure if it'd make a difference not to use Porsche approved tires but I like the fact that they've been tested extensively by Porsche engineers and are proven to work well with the car. That's why I'd rather stick with the "N" rated tires even though they're apparently only available through Porsche dealerships. I had to pay $700 more for my new PS2 tires than what they would've been sold for from Tire Rack if they were available there.
A local friend of mine checked to see what tires are available and apparently the Continentals were discontinued last year. This is what he had to say:
"Yes, I purchased Pirelli 240 SZ winter tires (235/35 19 and 295/30 19) - they fit the stock 997 Turbo wheels.
Here's what I learned through Walt at Tirerack (ext. 372):
The Continentals listed last year are being discontinued; although still in stock, if a tire had to be replaced later there's a risk none would be available and I have to replace all tires. Seemed like a reasonable concern.
The Nokian WR is an N0 rated tire; $1,302 for a set (I'm not sure this included delivery).
The Pirelli 240 SZ (Soto zero) is an N1 rated tire; $1,382.28 including delivery in Bellevue."
Now, you have to be VERY careful with those winter tires or any new tires when first mounted. He found that out the hard way a couple weeks ago on a drive with me and Larry. On a sharp corner I was able to negotiate that just fine but he didn't have enough grip and ended up going straight ahead into the cornfield and spinning out. He suffered very minor damages fortunately but that was definitely a lesson learned for him. Those winter tires do not have as much grip as the summer tires.
Jason,
Thanks. What tires were Larry running?
I'm a little confused about the ratings, "N" means Porsche approved? "N0" "N1" is ??
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Right click on this and choose "Save Target As":
www.jasongtang.com/temp/Porsche_N_rating.pdf
Should explain everything you need to know about N rating.
www.jasongtang.com/temp/Porsche_N_rating.pdf
Should explain everything you need to know about N rating.
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Quote:
atomic80 said:
Right click on this and choose "Save Target As":
www.jasongtang.com/temp/Porsche_N_rating.pdf
Should explain everything you need to know about N rating.
Re: I think I've narrowed my After-Market Wheel Se
Andrea,
That's not what I meant at all--no need to apologize! Am glad to help. The thread is an absolute monster , after all we even went into wheel design theories 
; only reason I remember was I posted part of the info.
That's not what I meant at all--no need to apologize! Am glad to help. The thread is an absolute monster
, after all we even went into wheel design theories ; only reason I remember was I posted part of the info.
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andrea said:
Thanks Cannga! I missed in this topic the weight of 171,sorry...this is because I've asked for....next time I will read better the all topic
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cannga said:
Andrea,
That's not what I meant at all--no need to apologize! Am glad to help. The thread is an absolute monsterQuote:
andrea said:
Thanks Cannga! I missed in this topic the weight of 171,sorry...this is because I've asked for....next time I will read better the all topic
No problem really,it's a pleasure to meet user like you so well informed about car's things.Your Red beast is awesome!
Nov 14, 2007 10:14:55 AM
- Alex_997TT
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Nov 14, 2007 12:38:59 PM
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Crash said:
Unlikely. However, Manthey wheels are used by 997TTs on the Ring and those cars seem to be doing just fine. Probably just a nice marketing gimmick on behalf of Porsche.
Yeah and I guess the GT3RS wheels used on the GT2 w/ ceramics do just fine too without being ugly like the stock turbo wheels.
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Quote:
STRADALE said:Quote:
Crash said:
Unlikely. However, Manthey wheels are used by 997TTs on the Ring and those cars seem to be doing just fine. Probably just a nice marketing gimmick on behalf of Porsche.
Yeah and I guess the GT3RS wheels used on the GT2 w/ ceramics do just fine too without being ugly like the stock turbo wheels.
Good point, totally missed that.
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Wheels came!
OMG they look insane! The black center caps w/ gold crests look awesome. The Chrome bolts are perfect. Paint came out perfect.
Tubi came too. Now I just need the car to put them on!
Champion was right on w/ the weight too, only thing is I forgot to pull the caps before I weighed them but they're within a couple tens.
I'm a terrible photographer, looks much better in person plus They'll look even better ON a car but>>>>>
OMG they look insane! The black center caps w/ gold crests look awesome. The Chrome bolts are perfect. Paint came out perfect.
Tubi came too. Now I just need the car to put them on!
Champion was right on w/ the weight too, only thing is I forgot to pull the caps before I weighed them but they're within a couple tens.
I'm a terrible photographer, looks much better in person plus They'll look even better ON a car but>>>>>
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Forgot to ask- What would you guys use to coat the wheels? I obviously have some time to do this so it would be easy for me to apply while the wheels are still in my home & off the car. I remember some talking about Rejex? Anyone have experience w/ this? Is there anything else?
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