Oct 18, 2007 10:35:49 PM
- Modrocket_stereo
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Oct 18, 2007 10:35:49 PM
Oct 18, 2007 10:55:43 PM
Oct 18, 2007 11:11:01 PM
Oct 18, 2007 11:59:49 PM
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Modrocket_stereo said:
AH MAN! This was the first time I made a poll here. Had to mess it up...
Alright. I feel the same way. I brought up a point at another forum how I personally take them with a grain of salt but some one replied saying how important the Nurburgring is. This is what the guy had to say:
Nurburgring times are not in reality taken with a grain of salt at all, even as the times change and evolve with conditions. The 'Ring is an institution and historical document of peformance; it is regarded as the gold-standard.
As you well know, the Nurburgring is one of the most, if the most, demanding and "institutionalized" of road courses on Earth. It is the basis for all --or nearly all-- serious judgments of a car's performance potentials. They're not testing the car for lap times at Hockenheim, Spa Francorchamps, Imola, etc. for a reason. It is the Nurburgring that holds the most famous and relevant spot for lap times recorded. If you make the cut at the Nurburgring, you have made the cut --period. All GT-Rs since the R32 have been R&D'd at the Nurburgring (among other facilities).
Lots of tracks are technical and demanding. You left out Mt. Panorama/Bathurst which is regarded as the mini-Nurburgring. But they're not testing the car there either. They will undoubtedly RACE the car there. There is always going to be a name that stands out among others in any field. And testing lap times and conditions are most revered at the Nurburgring. The GT-R's racing potential has yet to be seen but if past is prologue then expect the best.
Oct 19, 2007 1:23:11 AM
Oct 19, 2007 3:54:36 PM
Oct 19, 2007 4:39:59 PM
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Oct 19, 2007 5:50:04 PM
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Modrocket_stereo said:
I feel that the N'ring is great for market and advertising. Moogle, how does 599 GTB fair against the F430 (not the Scuderia) in pace at Fiorano?
Oct 19, 2007 8:32:34 PM
Oct 20, 2007 4:37:27 AM
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Modrocket_stereo said:
With this day and age of go-faster cars, how serious do you take manufacturer and magazine claims of Nordscleife lap times? Is this a make or break figure for you?
Oct 20, 2007 6:30:53 AM
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SoCal Alan said:Quote:
Modrocket_stereo said:
With this day and age of go-faster cars, how serious do you take manufacturer and magazine claims of Nordscleife lap times? Is this a make or break figure for you?
I take it as seriously as taking Tiger Woods's 72 hole score on each course he plays on and using it to compare each golf course's relative difficulty. It's great for discussion, but nobody really does it. The reason is, the score is based on too many factors.
Oct 20, 2007 10:20:52 AM
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Modrocket_stereo said:
I feel that the N'ring is great for market and advertising. Moogle, how does 599 GTB fair against the F430 (not the Scuderia) in pace at Fiorano?
Oct 21, 2007 12:29:27 AM
Oct 21, 2007 3:13:56 AM
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Dr. Phil said:
When was the last time you chased someone else in your sportscar for 22 kilometres and getting first from point A to point B was not just important, but absolutely imperative?
The only answer I can think of, is if you are James Bond.
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MKSGR said:Quote:
Dr. Phil said:
When was the last time you chased someone else in your sportscar for 22 kilometres and getting first from point A to point B was not just important, but absolutely imperative?
The only answer I can think of, is if you are James Bond.
Easy answer: happens several times per year - on the track