Re: Autocar GT2 Review
I was having a duel with a GT3 at the Ring recently. I looked in the mirror and saw the GT3 spin (luckily it did not hit anything). PSM would probably have kept the car moving forwards.
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Modrocket_stereo said:
Are we reading the same sentence? I believe you are misinterpreting the sentence. 'The traction control is subtle, if not as clever as the 430 Scuderia's.'
I believe the writer meant the stability management system of the Scud is technically better though both are effective. More importantly, it is clear he preferred the GT3 over the GT2.
Only very hard core track people have a reason to buy the GT2.
No, the writer didn't imply that the Scud stability management was better. It was simply stated that it had more settings. Personally, I see no need for a half-assed stabiliy system. It is either ON, because you can't afford to do anything stupid, or it is OFF. Anything in-between is useless IMO.
Regarding buyer type, I seriously doubt that. Both the Scuderia and the GT2 will be bought by pretty much all types of customers.
If a a stability system has more settings, is it not technically better? I stated both were equally effective.
If this car attracted all type of buyers, Porsche would produce a hell of a lot more. They know it is a very narrow market segment.
To those who can't get an allocation, thank your lucky stars. The Gt2 depreciation will be huge. Within a year you probably can pick one up for 20-25% less. Porsche's at this price point do not hold their value especially since they all look alike.
MBH, I am sure you have some valuable insights but honestly I cannot read your posts. The abbreviations and nomenclature come at the reader in staccato fashion rendering the message, at least to me, incomprehensible.
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Modrocket_stereo said:
Are we reading the same sentence? I believe you are misinterpreting the sentence. 'The traction control is subtle, if not as clever as the 430 Scuderia's.'
I believe the writer meant the stability management system of the Scud is technically better though both are effective. More importantly, it is clear he preferred the GT3 over the GT2.
Only very hard core track people have a reason to buy the GT2.
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I believe the writer meant the stability management system of the Scud is technically better though both are effective. More importantly, it is clear he preferred the GT3 over the GT2.
Only very hard core track people have a reason to buy the GT2.
Oct 2, 2007 10:24:28 PM
Oct 3, 2007 12:40:32 AM
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ITALOKOKO said:
are you sure about this statement ?
Quite...GT2's are not as sharp handling as GT3's...With the previous 996 models, that was definately the case and from what I've heard about this new model, its the same thing again...
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ITALOKOKO said:
are you sure about this statement ?
Quite...GT2's are not as sharp handling as GT3's...With the previous 996 models, that was definately the case and from what I've heard about this new model, its the same thing again...
Based on recent test reports the GT2 is as agile as the GT3, meaning stearing and suspension setup is very comparable in both cars. However, the GT2 is said to feature the typical characteristics of a turbo car (no surprise...): Instant throttle response shall not be expected as in case of a NA car like the GT3.
If this picture should be confirmed by later tests the increase in power would "cost" some directness in terms of throttle response. However, the handling of the two cars might be in the same league which would be very, very good news for the GT2
Oct 5, 2007 5:22:10 AM
Oct 5, 2007 6:46:52 AM
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I'd also take the GT2 (to own)...anyday. But for an hour around the track? Gimme the GT3 no doubt! Again, I've never driven the new GT2, so these are my assumptions/opinions....Like i said, maybe I'll be proved wrong
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BC911 said:
I'd also take the GT2 (to own)...anyday. But for an hour around the track? Gimme the GT3 no doubt! Again, I've never driven the new GT2, so these are my assumptions/opinions....Like i said, maybe I'll be proved wrong
In fact, you might be right. A Porsche testdriver expressed to me his personal preference for the GT3 (money left aside) recently... However, I cannot confirm whether this preference for the GT3 is based on the more indirect throttle/engine response of the GT2 or a less agile handling. Could be both, implying that you may be right
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RC said:
I didn't have the chance to drive the 997 GT2 yet, so take my comments with a grain of salt please but judging by my 997 Turbo with SPORT on/PSM off, the 997 GT3 and the 996 GT2/tuned GT2, I think that most REAL track addicts/pros will still prefer the GT3 RS over the GT2. The 997 GT2 has too much torque/power for most track drivers, unless you're a real pro capable of taming the beast. Most GT2 owners will find it very difficult to keep up with the GT3 RS on the track, not even mentioning being faster.
I'm very curious to see the Sport Auto results on the Nordschleife, I still doubt that the 997 GT2 can do below 7:40 but maybe I'm wrong.
Oct 5, 2007 4:43:10 PM
Oct 5, 2007 6:12:00 PM
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Turbo Al said:
...I have no difficulty at all reading VKSF/WBH's posts (I think JimFlat6 likened it to reading Her Majesty's telegram's ),
I am convinced WBH is really a computer with AI located in a basement inside MB Headquarter, its keyboard stuck on the forward slash and unable to do capital "i." Some background program instructing computer to repeat same message over, and over, and over...
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Grant said:
I think 996GT2 violent depreciation was partly due to the crappy PCCB MkI brakes that were standard, the modest weight loss compared to the TT and the less than perfect suspension tuning.
I think the 997GT2 will be a vastly improved car!