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Sep 25, 2007 6:48:05 AM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005

R8 owners experience

Here is an link to antoher forum dedicted to R8:
http://www.r8talk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1174

Ron and I are members there but, recently quality of discussion there become rather well... Strange.

Just read what some of members there claim about their beloved R8. Post your honest and objective comments here...

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Sep 25, 2007 6:56:39 AM

silvershadow: Senior; Loc: Zuerich, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 757, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 6, 2003; Reply to: KresoF1

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Hi KresoF1, thanks for the finding but i prefer not to read anything until i will be able to drive the car (the dealer delayed me the testdrive to this week claiming about bad weathe....grrrr...), so not to be influenced by other guys' sensations.

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Sep 25, 2007 8:48:29 AM

Rich C (UK): Veteran; Loc: Mortimer, UK; Posts: 1098, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 11, 2004; Reply to: silvershadow

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Saw my first R8 'in the wild' at the weekend.

Don't know what it says about where I live but was at my local DIY superstore - 2 Vantages, an R8, a 997 4S and an M6 in the car park.... (no camera sorry)

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Sep 25, 2007 9:27:36 AM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4206, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Rich C (UK)

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Kreso,

I think you hit the nail on the head with the looks over performance issue. It seems that a growing number of buying decisions are being made on the basis of looks and exclusivity these days which there is nothing wrong with IMHO if people are just honest and admit that's what influenced them. I must admit it makes me smile every time a "new" car is launched as the early buyers seem to be more in love with the fact that they get noticed on the road more. This is hardly surprising as onlookers are naturally curious about unfamiliar vehicles. I laugh even more when journalists resort to this - witness Autocar taking a Fiat 500 and a Mini One around the streets of Turin a few months ago and writing that the Mini was almost invisible to the public next to the 500. Really? What a surprise - a car that has been around for 6 years doesn't draw attention.... what a shock

The comments on traffic light performance are somewhat childish though. I've agree with you on the performance of the 997TT and the M3 having had the chance of an extended and unaccompanied test drive in one last week It's a very capable car but needs to be driven hard before you realise just how capable it really is. After all the lack lustre magazine reviews thus far I'll be interested to see how Tiff Needell's bit of hairy chested sideways track driving on 5th Gear lat night changes views on forums today

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Sep 25, 2007 11:03:26 AM

dhayek: Rennteam Master; Loc: Beirut , Lebanon; Posts: 3839, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 7, 2004; Reply to: ISUK

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lol... the comments on the link is very funny kreso.. the guy is a fanatic.. and like you said egi higher than everest

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Sep 26, 2007 1:41:37 AM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: ISUK

Re: R8 owners experience

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ISUK said:
Kreso,

I think you hit the nail on the head with the looks over performance issue. It seems that a growing number of buying decisions are being made on the basis of looks and exclusivity these days which there is nothing wrong with IMHO if people are just honest and admit that's what influenced them. I must admit it makes me smile every time a "new" car is launched as the early buyers seem to be more in love with the fact that they get noticed on the road more. This is hardly surprising as onlookers are naturally curious about unfamiliar vehicles. I laugh even more when journalists resort to this - witness Autocar taking a Fiat 500 and a Mini One around the streets of Turin a few months ago and writing that the Mini was almost invisible to the public next to the 500. Really? What a surprise - a car that has been around for 6 years doesn't draw attention.... what a shock

The comments on traffic light performance are somewhat childish though. I've agree with you on the performance of the 997TT and the M3 having had the chance of an extended and unaccompanied test drive in one last week It's a very capable car but needs to be driven hard before you realise just how capable it really is. After all the lack lustre magazine reviews thus far I'll be interested to see how Tiff Needell's bit of hairy chested sideways track driving on 5th Gear lat night changes views on forums today

Buyers are getting wiser. Street performance is over rated. Unless you are tracking a car, to drive around a city with a silly big whale tail is nothing more screaming I am a "WANNABE". Smart money goes to cars that look stylish, have exclusivity, have perceived or actual performance and retain their value.

With cars costing close to or over $200,000, it is crazy to to buy a car just because it has good performance or it goes around the Ring in less than 7.50sec. Look at the CGT. Great performance and yet Porsche comes out a the GT2 that performs as well for $250,000 less.

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Sep 26, 2007 9:02:44 AM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4206, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: nberry

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nberry said:
With cars costing close to or over $200,000, it is crazy to to buy a car just because it has good performance or it goes around the Ring in less than 7.50sec. Look at the CGT. Great performance and yet Porsche comes out a the GT2 that performs as well for $250,000 less.

mmm..... Nick, interesting that you didn't use the comparison of the Enzo against the F430 Scuderia. Faster round Fiorano, half the price etc...

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Sep 26, 2007 1:54:08 PM

shin: Senior; Loc: no , Singapore; Posts: 671, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 19, 2004; Reply to: nberry

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nberry said:
Buyers are getting wiser. Street performance is over rated. Unless you are tracking a car, to drive around a city with a silly big whale tail is nothing more screaming I am a "WANNABE". Smart money goes to cars that look stylish, have exclusivity, have perceived or actual performance and retain their value.

With cars costing close to or over $200,000, it is crazy to to buy a car just because it has good performance or it goes around the Ring in less than 7.50sec. Look at the CGT. Great performance and yet Porsche comes out a the GT2 that performs as well for $250,000 less.

Agreed, 100%.

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Sep 26, 2007 1:59:42 PM

Ferdie: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Europe , Germany; Posts: 8234, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2004; Reply to: ISUK

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ISUK said:
Nick, interesting that you didn't use the comparison of the Enzo against the F430 Scuderia. Faster round Fiorano, half the price etc...

Indeed, but that might conflict with his ego.

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Sep 26, 2007 3:09:54 PM

tony2006: Co-Pilot; Loc: California; Posts: 229, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 26, 2006; Reply to: nberry

Re: R8 owners experience

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nberry said:
[Buyers are getting wiser. Street performance is over rated. Unless you are tracking a car, to drive around a city with a silly big whale tail is nothing more screaming I am a "WANNABE". Smart money goes to cars that look stylish, have exclusivity, have perceived or actual performance and retain their value.

With cars costing close to or over $200,000, it is crazy to to buy a car just because it has good performance or it goes around the Ring in less than 7.50sec. Look at the CGT. Great performance and yet Porsche comes out a the GT2 that performs as well for $250,000 less.

100% Agreed. It is about the overall ownership/driving experience rather than just speed/performance.

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Sep 26, 2007 3:14:07 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: ISUK

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ISUK said:
Quote:
nberry said:
With cars costing close to or over $200,000, it is crazy to to buy a car just because it has good performance or it goes around the Ring in less than 7.50sec. Look at the CGT. Great performance and yet Porsche comes out a the GT2 that performs as well for $250,000 less.

mmm..... Nick, interesting that you didn't use the comparison of the Enzo against the F430 Scuderia. Faster round Fiorano, half the price etc...

The Enzo still sells for about 75% over MSRP. That is the difference.

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Sep 26, 2007 4:13:36 PM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4206, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: nberry

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Nick,

Got to hand it to you lawyers. A quick rule change to defend your arguement is pure class

I thought you were comparing the relative performance of a CGT to a GT2 but heck no...... you were looking at resale.... and resale primarily in terms of the SoCal market at that

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Sep 26, 2007 5:13:22 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: ISUK

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ISUK said:
Nick,

Got to hand it to you lawyers. A quick rule change to defend your arguement is pure class I thought you were comparing the relative performance of a CGT to a GT2 but heck no...... you were looking at resale.... and resale primarily in terms of the SoCal market at that

I was not being lawyer like. If you reread my initial response, I point out several factors to consider including performance. However, all things considered, if smart car buyers could drive a high performance car without suffering unreasonable depreciation, that would trump all other factors. I suspect you would feel the same way.

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Sep 27, 2007 3:31:29 AM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: KresoF1

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does anybody have a dyno sheet on the R8. ? I've heard that Sportec has had a event in Switzerland with a possibility for every visitor to go on their dyno to check the HP output n that the Audi RS4 owners ALL came out with hanging heads averaging 380 hp or so...

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Sep 27, 2007 4:10:57 AM

eclou: Veteran; Loc: Texas , United States; Posts: 1182, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 4, 2006; Reply to: BjoernB

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The R8 guys are going to cling to that farce of a Willow Springs track test forever.

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Sep 27, 2007 12:48:27 PM

Friscorays: Junior; Loc: TX; Posts: 148, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 20, 2005; Reply to: eclou

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Here is undisputable video proof (from the Times) that the R8 is even more of a supercar than the Lamborghini LP640: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/audio_v...timesonline0286

You can't argue with science!

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Sep 27, 2007 8:46:08 PM

STRADALE: Rennteam VIP; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 11075, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 9, 2005; Reply to: ISUK

Re: R8 owners experience

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ISUK said:
Quote:
nberry said:
With cars costing close to or over $200,000, it is crazy to to buy a car just because it has good performance or it goes around the Ring in less than 7.50sec. Look at the CGT. Great performance and yet Porsche comes out a the GT2 that performs as well for $250,000 less.

mmm..... Nick, interesting that you didn't use the comparison of the Enzo against the F430 Scuderia. Faster round Fiorano, half the price etc...

It doesn't happen often but he got you that time Nick.

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Sep 27, 2007 9:34:27 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: STRADALE

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STRADALE said:
Quote:
ISUK said:
Quote:
nberry said:
With cars costing close to or over $200,000, it is crazy to to buy a car just because it has good performance or it goes around the Ring in less than 7.50sec. Look at the CGT. Great performance and yet Porsche comes out a the GT2 that performs as well for $250,000 less.

mmm..... Nick, interesting that you didn't use the comparison of the Enzo against the F430 Scuderia. Faster round Fiorano, half the price etc...

It doesn't happen often but he got you that time Nick.

Fat chance.

My above response explains my position.

BTW, I also have a problem with the Scud and its cost. You have to be crazy to buy one.

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