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Re: Panamera's interior picture
Yeah, I think you may be right in that the AutoCar interpretation is a little out. I had the "996 button" thought too. And what's with that little red knob rearwards of the gear lever? And the slot in the middle of the 'Air Con Controls' make it look like an old cassette player... It's definitley not the finished article! We will have to wait and see....
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wtsnet said:
Yeah, I think you may be right in that the AutoCar interpretation is a little out. I had the "996 button" thought too. And what's with that little red knob rearwards of the gear lever? And the slot in the middle of the 'Air Con Controls' make it look like an old cassette player!
Could the red knob be some kind of cut-off switch in case of an emergency? It is obvious that the interior is far from a finished product.
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being a mule it is normal for them to use buttons from the 996. and I agree also that there looks more like an automatic shifter than a sequential or manual. Also the clima controls look like taken from the current Mercedes E class. But the question is that Porsche still don't have the sequential gearbox?!?!?
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being a mule it is normal for them to use buttons from the 996. and I agree also that there looks more like an automatic shifter than a sequential or manual. Also the clima controls look like taken from the current Mercedes E class. But the question is that Porsche still don't have the sequential gearbox?!?!?
Honestly, I would want an automatic in a limousine, no matter how sporty. The somewhat jerky sequentials aren't my cup of tea.
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Crash said:Could the red knob be some kind of cut-off switch in case of an emergency?
It looks more to me like a kind of manettino dial control, maybe just for development...?
Test cars usually have a kill switch like that--if that one isn't it, you can be sure it is located elsewhere, within the driver's reach.
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Thanks Rossi for the pic, the 456 GT is my favorite Ferrari of all time ! 
I particularly like the prefacelifted ones, and even further the first model years with the non-airbag-equipped steering wheel, which looked stunning.
Stylewise, Ferrari reached a greatness during the 456/355 (my 2nd favorite Ferrari) area that they have not recovered with their current products IMHO (I had a close look at the 599 this week BTW and from some angles it looks awkward IMHO
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I particularly like the prefacelifted ones, and even further the first model years with the non-airbag-equipped steering wheel, which looked stunning.
Stylewise, Ferrari reached a greatness during the 456/355 (my 2nd favorite Ferrari) area that they have not recovered with their current products IMHO (I had a close look at the 599 this week BTW and from some angles it looks awkward IMHO
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Thanks Rossi for the pic, the 456 GT is my favorite Ferrari of all time !
You're the only person that I've heard say that. I guess it's lucky for you that the 456 is one of the cheapest V12 Ferraris that you can buy (400i is the cheapest, I think)...
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I think, these are new pictures for the thread...
PDK steering wheel, or what..?
Looks like new Tiptronic buttons on a new steering wheel to me.
Interesting to see that the Pananmera will have the same instrument cluster as the 997, also the door handle seems to be the same.
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This thing just appears to be a LARGE SHAPELESS BLOB of a vehicle. I don't think there is enough camo to come off to make it attractive, let alone sleek like their drawing.
Unless the whole body is a fake, i believe porsche is going after the 65+ crowd who can't afford a bentley/rolls but want a nameplate and a vehicle that is easy on their arthritis.
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Unless the whole body is a fake, i believe porsche is going after the 65+ crowd who can't afford a bentley/rolls but want a nameplate and a vehicle that is easy on their arthritis.
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zzboba said:
Interesting pictures.
The side windows are not fully disappearing... the front delta is fixed like Gallardo's and Bentley GT's. Archaic IMO.
This archaic design element goes well with the archaic 993-style-mirrors.
The archaic design elements will be logically consistent w/the likely archaic perf/comfort tech features of Panam....
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racerx said:
This thing just appears to be a LARGE SHAPELESS BLOB of a vehicle. I don't think there is enough camo to come off to make it attractive, let alone sleek like their drawing.
Unless the whole body is a fake, i believe porsche is going after the 65+ crowd who can't afford a bentley/rolls but want a nameplate and a vehicle that is easy on their arthritis.
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I'm not sure I understand your observation.
I enjoyed owning two different 928's in my younger years even though acquaintances sometimes offered that they looked like tarted-up descendants of AMC Pacers devoid of distinctive shape; a cross between a jelly bean and a flying saucer with weird, Super Fly headlights. But, I liked them anyway. A lot. It seems you do, too.
I wonder what the camouflaged 928 mules looked like.
If the Panamera is to capture the imagination of the public, Porsche has to visually navigate their way through preconceived notions about (and style traditions of) a large group of competing autos. The car will need to look distinct from other vehicles, yet show plenty of recognizable Porsche visual DNA. The Panamera's looks will need to excite without confusing the buying public.
I think we should wait to see the final car in the flesh before declaring it a total loss.
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Mike I have always qualified my dislike of the panamera mules with hope that we are not seeing the final shape.
However in its present form it is too tall by a long shot, see photo's with people standing next to it. It is also extremely long and there is a straight line front the hip to the headlight. No curves! Look at that pic you posted, the whole side is flat and level and its taller than everyday econo sedans. That is unacceptable to me.
It does not come close to Porsche's own drawing which was Wide, Low ,and Sleek. and attractive.
Porsche DNA? What's that? Where is Porsche DNA in your CGT?
The 928 is known for its complex shape, its beautifuul curves, and its exoticness. It's LOW and WIDE. (something that does not show in the shot you posted.)
A 928 is 1.5 inches lower and 3 inches wider that a 997S. Take a good look at the front quuarter panel of the 928 where roundness transforms into a crease.
The 928 is the car I always wanted and I am fortunate to own one of the best examples.
Take a look at this shot of someone else's for shape, coolest headlights in modern times imo.
The point is Porsche has been a builder of exotic sportscars. Exotic means low and wide. Lambo, ferrari, zonda, saleen, corvette, lotus, bugatti, AM etc - all low, all wide.
Panamera so far, long and tall.
However in its present form it is too tall by a long shot, see photo's with people standing next to it. It is also extremely long and there is a straight line front the hip to the headlight. No curves! Look at that pic you posted, the whole side is flat and level and its taller than everyday econo sedans. That is unacceptable to me.
It does not come close to Porsche's own drawing which was Wide, Low ,and Sleek. and attractive.
Porsche DNA? What's that? Where is Porsche DNA in your CGT?
The 928 is known for its complex shape, its beautifuul curves, and its exoticness. It's LOW and WIDE. (something that does not show in the shot you posted.)
A 928 is 1.5 inches lower and 3 inches wider that a 997S. Take a good look at the front quuarter panel of the 928 where roundness transforms into a crease.
The 928 is the car I always wanted and I am fortunate to own one of the best examples.
Take a look at this shot of someone else's for shape, coolest headlights in modern times imo.
The point is Porsche has been a builder of exotic sportscars. Exotic means low and wide. Lambo, ferrari, zonda, saleen, corvette, lotus, bugatti, AM etc - all low, all wide.
Panamera so far, long and tall.
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The Panamera is being built to keep and gain market share.
Not win design awards.
I believe that's the whole problem/situation in a nutshell.
Soccer moms and dads wont find a low, sleek sedan practical in everyday life - and I'm sure Porsche has taken this into consideration when building the Panamera.
The Panamera will be a sedan version of the Cayenne. Nothing more and nothing less.
That's my guess.
Not win design awards.
I believe that's the whole problem/situation in a nutshell.
Soccer moms and dads wont find a low, sleek sedan practical in everyday life - and I'm sure Porsche has taken this into consideration when building the Panamera.
The Panamera will be a sedan version of the Cayenne. Nothing more and nothing less.
That's my guess.
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