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Okay, the drivers' testimony enabled the FIA to catch the bigger fish, namely McLaren itself, but surely they deserve some form of censure. Total immunity due to their cooperation with the investigation is gut-wrenching to bear. They are equally culpable in my eyes.
I'm kind of undecided as to whether or not the drivers should be punished. It wasn't really their fault that the engineers used the Ferrari data, but on the other hand, they were driving with car that had been created with stolen documents. Either way, this really is a sad time for F1.
I have not followed this sordid business thoroughly so I may have missed a few news items, but could anyone please correct the following facts, deductions or conclusions if you know them to be wrong:
- I believe I read somewhere that Ferrari mechanic Nigel Stepney and McLaren engineer Mike Coughlan were both thinking of hiring on with a third F1 racing team (Renault or Toyota???) before they got caught out in this situation. I deduce from this that Coughlan's loyalty to McLaren was already questionable and suspect that any Ferrari data passed on by Stepney and collected by Coughlan might have been part of their collective "data base" for use in a new job at a less competitive team which needs to catch up with the front runners. Would Coughlan have offered the date to the management of a team he intended to leave?
- If McLaren management was aware of the "stolen" data, would it have informed the drivers of it? I doubt it very much.
a) Drivers would not need to know the true origin of a teams new developments to do their job.
b) Drivers change teams more often than technical staff, so would be an extremely high security risk.
c) Race drivers are notorious blabbermouths
anyway and for this reason are frequently not told any more by their teams than they have to know to do their job, even where the teams' own developments are concerned. I deduce that Coughlan blabbed to de la Rosa, who in turn blabbed to Alonso. I suspect that Ron Dennis would cringe at the thought of his drivers getting involved in discussions about Ferrari using a "secret gas" in its cars' tires.
d) Any e-mails exchanged by de la Rosa and Alonso would surely have been in Spanish. In view of other recent events it is quite credible that Hamilton was not involved in this communication loop, explaining why he went with Ron Dennis to back him up at the FIA meeting.
e) I have not yet heard of any Ferrari feature which found its way into the McLaren car as a direct result of information passed on by Stepney. Has there been any evidence to this effect?
- Personally, I cannot imagine McLaren people ever copying Ferrari in a wholesale manner. Not just because their sense of ethics or their pride wouldn't let them. Their arrogance, for the want of a better word, would not let them. Obviously, any team seeing a new feature on a competitor's car which might offer a technical advantage would study it, investigate its effects on its own car, and then use it if it proved to be good. That is all legitimate and happens all the time.
Also, you do not get to be better than a competitor by copying him as McLaren has generally been better than Ferrari this year. Best you can hope for is to catch up a little by copying, if you are not getting anywhere with your own car otherwise.
So far, I have not heard anything to conclusively show that Ron Dennis was aware of or condoned the acquisition of Ferrari paperwork by Coughlan. Have I missed something?
If I have not missed relevant facts showing that my presumptions, deductions and conclusions above are wrong, it should have been Alonso who was punished by FIA by having championship points discounted, not the McLaren team. Coughlan and Stepney will be punished anyway, one way or another.