Aug 24, 2007 2:16:25 PM
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WBH said:
What tires on GSL? Street...or dry-only/track-only tires?
Amusing that 4000lb 599 had roughly 7:47 NBR on street tires....aren't track-focused cars supposed to beat heavy luxury cruisers on NBR?
Scud's real challenge will be to materially beat the "elder statesman" 599 on NBR on street tires, not track tires....
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
WBH said:
What tires on GSL? Street...or dry-only/track-only tires?
Amusing that 4000lb 599 had roughly 7:47 NBR on street tires....aren't track-focused cars supposed to beat heavy luxury cruisers on NBR?
Scud's real challenge will be to materially beat the "elder statesman" 599 on NBR on street tires, not track tires....
Tires on Gallardo SL were Pirelli Corsa's.
We need to explain 599 tires as well-P Zero The Hero on 599 are specially developed for 599. They are according to Sport Auto pretty much "very sporty" focused street tires that are not that good on wet road. That explains pretty poor wet handling time by 599(but, Gallardo SL and 997 Turbo suffered as well on wet handling).
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Rossi said:Quote:
WBH said:
Scud's real challenge will be to materially beat the "elder statesman" 599 on NBR on street tires, not track tires....
Scuderia's real challenge will be the F430-successor.
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WBH said:
Don't know about that, Rossi....
Scud will be obsolescent by time 430 successor launches....sort of like how many jaded F buyers quickly moved on from 360CS to 430....fast-advancing tech entails short relevant half-life for any of these cars....more like a smartphone than a bespoke suit/Patek or some other low-tech consumer good....who wants last yr's "hot", latest/greatest smartphone, flat-panel TV, etc????
Major question is whether 430 successor will offer useable mid-range tq (very relevant for commuting on fast, dense-traffic, urban CA fwys) while delivering impressive NBR times vs 599....
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KresoF1 said:
Back to your question-I expect CL63 to be faster on wet road then 599. CL63 features pretty agressive ESP setup and Conti's are much more wet road friendly then Hero's on 599... 599 is a awsome car but, it is not all weather interceptor...
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KresoF1 said:
Back to your question-I expect CL63 to be faster on wet road then 599. CL63 features pretty agressive ESP setup and Conti's are much more wet road friendly then Hero's on 599... 599 is a awsome car but, it is not all weather interceptor...
I'm not surprised. After all, the Exxon tankers are designed for water travel .
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KresoF1 said:
Back to your question-I expect CL63 to be faster on wet road then 599. CL63 features pretty agressive ESP setup and Conti's are much more wet road friendly then Hero's on 599... 599 is a awsome car but, it is not all weather interceptor...
I'm not surprised. After all, the Exxon tankers are designed for water travel .
I fully agree with you.
Question is what is CL63/CL65 good for? Specially after new RS6 introduction in few weeks time...
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
Back to your question-I expect CL63 to be faster on wet road then 599. CL63 features pretty agressive ESP setup and Conti's are much more wet road friendly then Hero's on 599... 599 is a awsome car but, it is not all weather interceptor...
I'm not surprised. After all, the Exxon tankers are designed for water travel .
I fully agree with you.
Question is what is CL63/CL65 good for? Specially after new RS6 introduction in few weeks time...
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WBH said:
Don't know about that, Rossi....
Scud will be obsolescent by time 430 successor launches....sort of like how many jaded F buyers quickly moved on from 360CS to 430....fast-advancing tech entails short relevant half-life for any of these cars....more like a smartphone than a bespoke suit/Patek or some other low-tech consumer good....who wants last yr's "hot", latest/greatest smartphone, flat-panel TV, etc????
Major question is whether 430 successor will offer useable mid-range tq (very relevant for commuting on fast, dense-traffic, urban CA fwys) while delivering impressive NBR times vs 599....
Did really so many 360CS owners change their cars for a F430?
I was under the impression that this was the case with the standard-360-owner, but the Challenge Stradale is still something different, something special.
Somehow it's a pity that technology moves so fast, that even at these wonderful cars we can't speak of something - at least a little bit - Patek-like.
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964C2 said:
The wear ratings on the PZero tires for the 599 are 40 and 60 (front/back). This is very low and indicates that they are very "sticky" and probably very close to the Corsa's, or Pilot Sport Cup's, which are 60 and 80 respectfully.