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Oct 26, 2017 2:13:17 PM

KMM: Expert; Loc: Boston, MA , United States; Posts: 1745, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 5, 2004; Reply to: 4trac

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

4trac:
nberry:
Aren't the paddles the same size as the ones on a TTS?

One problem with extended paddles is with Porsche the paddles move with the steering wheel. Ferrari paddles which are large are fixed. I am not sure I want large paddles moving when the wheel turns. They could interfere with the maneuver.

I noticed on a recent test drive of a 991.2 PDK that the paddles are smaller, AND more inset towards the wheel centre, than on our 997, to the point where anyone with smaller hands now has to rotate the wrist to reach them and shift (not the case with the older ones). No idea why Porsche changed them, and it is not different with the different steering wheel options - relative position of the paddles is the same.

Agree regarding the 991.2 PDK paddles: too far inboard. I do like the reduced travel though. The travel on the older design (2016 in my case) is excessive imho, and out of sync with the shorter and crisper travel of the shift lever when in manual mode.

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Oct 26, 2017 3:04:50 PM

Josef: Senior; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 658, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 16, 2007; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

I did not say that it is going to be a new one indecision

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Oct 26, 2017 5:08:36 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: Josef

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Josef:
I did not say that it is going to be a new one

I like your thinking! Smiley

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Oct 26, 2017 5:16:40 PM

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2005; Reply to: Grant

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Congrats to all with GT3 deliveries.

Feeling slightly jealous.

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Oct 26, 2017 5:49:00 PM

LP997: Senior; Loc: Nord/sud , France; Posts: 694, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2010; Reply to: Targa Tim

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Congrats ;) enjoy kiss

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Oct 26, 2017 7:02:21 PM

RS 991: Co-Pilot; Loc: AG , Switzerland; Posts: 233, Gallery; Registered on: May 2, 2014; Reply to: LP997

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Congrats, it looks very good! kiss

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Oct 26, 2017 7:07:43 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

SciFrog:
Congrats Nick. Enjoy. And don’t touch these wheels, they are fine the way they are.

x2 do not paint the glossy black Nick, that would make them look cheap and outdated IMO, mate is much sportier and better looking for black wheels....

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Oct 26, 2017 7:18:32 PM

vantagesc: Pilot; Loc: U.S. , United States; Posts: 486, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 26, 2010; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Also, the gloss wheels would not match all the other black trim on the car.

Congrats Nick.

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Oct 26, 2017 7:25:53 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: vantagesc

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Congratulations Nick! New GT3 looks great! Good to hear you are enjoying manual mode! Smiley

Are you still planning to order the 991 GT3 RS mk2 or is the GT3 a keeper?

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Oct 26, 2017 9:35:24 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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The general manager who is in charge of the entire dealership was taking pictures of my car as we were chatting. He knew that I turn my cars in 12-18 months. When I turned in my .2Targa, he drove it until they sold it. He asked whether I planned to buy an RS and I told him I wasn't sure. He smiled and said, "I'll see you in 12-18 months when you pick up your new car." He knows me well. smiley

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Oct 26, 2017 9:48:35 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: nberry

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Anyone have a confirmed order for the GT3 Touring?

...how about that midnight blue? Smiley

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Oct 27, 2017 6:24:42 PM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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White 991.2 GT3, V260 March 2018

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Oct 27, 2017 8:00:34 PM

crayphile: Rennteam Pro; Loc: England , United Kingdom; Posts: 2861, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2004; Reply to: Gauss

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Lovely shot Smiley

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Oct 27, 2017 8:38:59 PM

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Switzerland; Posts: 7062, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 17, 2005; Reply to: crayphile

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Heavenly combination

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Oct 27, 2017 9:08:15 PM

DJM48: Expert; Loc: Australia , Australia; Posts: 1720, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2015; Reply to: Porker

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Great photo Gauss

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Oct 27, 2017 9:21:24 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Porker

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I had a chance to drive the car a little more. After driving it there is no doubt in my mind that this car is several grades above the .1GT3.

The engine may be the difference along with the new tires (I have the Michlen Cups 2's). The engine is more responsive than the .1. The pull of the car tracks the increasing RPM's in line with the throttle input. The torque comes on immediately and the sensation is dramatic. You know your in a car with a race engine heritage.

I entered a freeway in third gear at around 4500 rpm's and took it up to 7500 without the throttle fully depressed. The feeling and sound was out of this world. The car leaped in an angry growl sending chills up my back. I was scream YES! YES! YES! This is what a performance car should be. The exhaust sound is the best I have heard on a Porsche. It's a refined race sounding. It's loud and glorious. I don't believe cars around me would find it objectionable. Instead, they would say, "I wish I had one of those".

I did have chance to feel the handling of the car. The tires are sticky. There was one portion of the ride that has some curves and though there was traffic I still managed to test the handling. The car is like glue on the road. No dipping or unnecessary roll. Just perfect.

The one area which I will caution GT3 owners is going over bumps and driveways. I have the front lifter and as I slowly went over a small speed bump the lifter did its job. However, the backend slightly bottomed out. You need to be very slow and clear the entire car.

More later.

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Oct 27, 2017 10:17:43 PM

DJM48: Expert; Loc: Australia , Australia; Posts: 1720, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2015; Reply to: nberry

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Enjoy. If you love the sound in the mid range just wait until you sample the top end.. indecision

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Oct 27, 2017 10:50:49 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: nberry

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

nberry:
I had a chance to drive the car a little more. After driving it there is no doubt in my mind that this car is several grades above the .1GT3.

The engine may be the difference along with the new tires (I have the Michlen Cups 2's). The engine is more responsive than the .1. The pull of the car tracks the increasing RPM's in line with the throttle input. The torque comes on immediately and the sensation is dramatic. You know your in a car with a race engine heritage.

I entered a freeway in third gear at around 4500 rpm's and took it up to 7500 without the throttle fully depressed. The feeling and sound was out of this world. The car leaped in an angry growl sending chills up my back. I was scream YES! YES! YES! This is what a performance car should be. The exhaust sound is the best I have heard on a Porsche. It's a refined race sounding. It's loud and glorious. I don't believe cars around me would find it objectionable. Instead, they would say, "I wish I had one of those".

I did have chance to feel the handling of the car. The tires are sticky. There was one portion of the ride that has some curves and though there was traffic I still managed to test the handling. The car is like glue on the road. No dipping or unnecessary roll. Just perfect.

The one area which I will caution GT3 owners is going over bumps and driveways. I have the front lifter and as I slowly went over a small speed bump the lifter did its job. However, the backend slightly bottomed out. You need to be very slow and clear the entire car.

More later.

I wonder if the front lift is making it easier to scrape the low rear diffuser? Maybe try lowering it as soon as you clear the front...

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Oct 28, 2017 5:59:05 AM

The farmer: Senior; Loc: Stockholm , Sweden; Posts: 687, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2016; Reply to: nberry

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

nberry:
I had a chance to drive the car a little more. After driving it there is no doubt in my mind that this car is several grades above the .1GT3.

The engine may be the difference along with the new tires (I have the Michlen Cups 2's). The engine is more responsive than the .1. The pull of the car tracks the increasing RPM's in line with the throttle input. The torque comes on immediately and the sensation is dramatic. You know your in a car with a race engine heritage.

I entered a freeway in third gear at around 4500 rpm's and took it up to 7500 without the throttle fully depressed. The feeling and sound was out of this world. The car leaped in an angry growl sending chills up my back. I was scream YES! YES! YES! This is what a performance car should be. The exhaust sound is the best I have heard on a Porsche. It's a refined race sounding. It's loud and glorious. I don't believe cars around me would find it objectionable. Instead, they would say, "I wish I had one of those".

I did have chance to feel the handling of the car. The tires are sticky. There was one portion of the ride that has some curves and though there was traffic I still managed to test the handling. The car is like glue on the road. No dipping or unnecessary roll. Just perfect.

The one area which I will caution GT3 owners is going over bumps and driveways. I have the front lifter and as I slowly went over a small speed bump the lifter did its job. However, the backend slightly bottomed out. You need to be very slow and clear the entire car.

More later.

Ahhhh, Nice description. Can almost feel what you are describing. Soooooo nice! Congrats! Smiley Smiley

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Oct 28, 2017 7:55:02 AM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: nberry

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

nberry:
I entered a freeway in third gear at around 4500 rpm's and took it up to 7500 without the throttle fully depressed. The feeling and sound was out of this world. The car leaped in an angry growl sending chills up my back. I was scream YES! YES! YES! This is what a performance car should be. The exhaust sound is the best I have heard on a Porsche. It's a refined race sounding. It's loud and glorious. I don't believe cars around me would find it objectionable. Instead, they would say, "I wish I had one of those".

Very vividly written this part.

I got excited by simply reading Smiley

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Oct 28, 2017 9:07:29 AM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: reginos

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Apparently there is already a video online of a new GT3 being enthusiastically driven to Starbucks... Smiley

Video link: https://youtu.be/QxfyFgsJXGY

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Oct 28, 2017 12:01:05 PM

DaveC: Veteran; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 1068, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2005; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

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Nick you are saying all the things I need to hear about the .2 compared to the .1!

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Oct 28, 2017 12:08:41 PM

Gauss: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Luxembourg , Luxembourg; Posts: 5822, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 3, 2003; Reply to: DaveC

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All the reviews suggest that it is much more than a simple facelift. Well done, Porsche!

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White 991.2 GT3, V260 March 2018

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Oct 28, 2017 1:26:11 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Grant

Re: OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3

Grant:
nberry:
I had a chance to drive the car a little more. After driving it there is no doubt in my mind that this car is several grades above the .1GT3.

The engine may be the difference along with the new tires (I have the Michlen Cups 2's). The engine is more responsive than the .1. The pull of the car tracks the increasing RPM's in line with the throttle input. The torque comes on immediately and the sensation is dramatic. You know your in a car with a race engine heritage.

I entered a freeway in third gear at around 4500 rpm's and took it up to 7500 without the throttle fully depressed. The feeling and sound was out of this world. The car leaped in an angry growl sending chills up my back. I was scream YES! YES! YES! This is what a performance car should be. The exhaust sound is the best I have heard on a Porsche. It's a refined race sounding. It's loud and glorious. I don't believe cars around me would find it objectionable. Instead, they would say, "I wish I had one of those".

I did have chance to feel the handling of the car. The tires are sticky. There was one portion of the ride that has some curves and though there was traffic I still managed to test the handling. The car is like glue on the road. No dipping or unnecessary roll. Just perfect.

The one area which I will caution GT3 owners is going over bumps and driveways. I have the front lifter and as I slowly went over a small speed bump the lifter did its job. However, the backend slightly bottomed out. You need to be very slow and clear the entire car.

More later.

I wonder if the front lift is making it easier to scrape the low rear diffuser? Maybe try lowering it as soon as you clear the front...

Grant, it could be the new diffuser. Not once did I bottom out the rear on the .1. Smiley

FWIW, though I haven’t gone full Monty with car, based on what I experienced the .2 RS would be superfluous for me. The .2 GT 3 has all the power you need to maximize driving enjoyment. Smiley

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Oct 28, 2017 2:07:04 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: nberry

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nberry:

FWIW, though I haven’t gone full Monty with car, based on what I experienced the .2 RS would be superfluous for me. The .2 GT 3 has all the power you need to maximize driving enjoyment.

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Nick - wait til you try launch control - it is fierce! Hard to believe just an NA 6-cylinder...

Literally made me dizzy the first time I felt that...
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Oct 28, 2017 3:42:31 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Grant

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Nick congrats again - I have managed to start exercising my .2 and wow it is just unbelievable.

The sound is nuts and the transmission is amazing in PDK-S.

I cant think of anything they could improve - other than the size of the Pdk paddles

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Oct 29, 2017 10:23:40 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59581, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Gauss

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Gauss:
All the reviews suggest that it is much more than a simple facelift. Well done, Porsche!

The new engine alone is worth the upgrade. Smiley

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Oct 29, 2017 4:40:33 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: RC

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Nick post is all the reasons why Porsche should offer the exact same car with no wing and rear seats, and even convertible. Their loss.

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Oct 29, 2017 5:10:52 PM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: SciFrog

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SciFrog:
Nick post is all the reasons why Porsche should offer the exact same car with no wing and rear seats, and even convertible. Their loss.

The incoming 991 Speedster will address that minus the rear seats.

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Oct 29, 2017 6:47:02 PM

AP911: Senior; Loc: UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 566, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 28, 2017; Reply to: m4ever

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I remember there use to be a company that would fit rear seats in a GT3. For countries that are not as strict as Germany, this could be a viable option. Regarding safety, I'm sure it's going to be safer than most old 911s.

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