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Jul 15, 2007 5:06:06 AM
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Re: New 997 GT2 - Semi Official Info?
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The new GT2 is the real deal. I want one. Its thier quickest street car, the tailpipes are killer and it will be more nimble than a 997TT. I dont care if it sounds like a broken vacumn cleaner or comes with airfix glue and extra asbestos tail slats either.
And Launch control with a manual tranny is a cool idea.
No way will a 599GTB keep up with a new GT2 on any real windy road. The GTB is more Luxo Coupe then serious hard core sports car. The Lambo 640 is cool but is it as useable at the limit of adhesion or just a dynamic handgrenade?
Is the GT2 a car for "hedgies" or cali-greenwich-london posuers ? No, it will kill them dead even with TC and SC.
That might be a good thing to cull the fakes of our roads.
If you think you need more speed than a new GT2 you are either a nut job or have a death wish.
RC I hope you get a early test drive.
Agreed, the GT2 seems to be Porsche's best offer (for street and track) as per today. Certainly, offering it with PSM was a wise decision as it can now be considered a serious alternative to the 997TT for enthusiasts who want more than 480hp
Downsides include the looks (rear wing etc.
) and PASM which might limit the car's track potential (as in case of GT3 and GT3RS).
Re: New 997 GT2 - Semi Official Info?
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No way will a 599GTB keep up with a new GT2 on any real windy road. The GTB is more Luxo Coupe then serious hard core sports car. The Lambo 640 is cool but is it as useable at the limit of adhesion or just a dynamic handgrenade?
i already race with a 599GTB on a track, and my old gt2 was faster during the 12 laps. For the lambo, i must tell that i love handgrenades, but only if i can master them....
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after reading this interesting document, only one thing is present in my mind : 3175 lbs of announced weight....not better than the 996, i am very disappointed.....
1440 kg is okay for a modern sports car - and much better than the 1500 kg I was expecting.
So my guess was not so bad
I love this car. Especially in black the gt2 looks gorgeous
For a 2WD the acceleration performance is impressive!!
Jul 24, 2007 12:09:34 PM
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Jul 24, 2007 3:51:46 PM
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GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
911 GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
"Essential for sporty driving with such high lateral acceleration as the new 911 GT2: standard sports bucket seats with a thorax airbag integrated into the side bolster and a folding backrest. It makes loading the rear storage compartment considerably easier. The unique feature if the placement of the backrest's pivot point situated high in the side bolsters. A world-wide first, this allows the complete lateral support of a sports bucket seat to be combined with a folding backrest. For very good lateral support in the pelvic area in addition to the backrest and seat cushions. The seat is made primarily of glass fibre plastic and an outer casing of exposed carbon. For very high stiffness and low weight."
"Essential for sporty driving with such high lateral acceleration as the new 911 GT2: standard sports bucket seats with a thorax airbag integrated into the side bolster and a folding backrest. It makes loading the rear storage compartment considerably easier. The unique feature if the placement of the backrest's pivot point situated high in the side bolsters. A world-wide first, this allows the complete lateral support of a sports bucket seat to be combined with a folding backrest. For very good lateral support in the pelvic area in addition to the backrest and seat cushions. The seat is made primarily of glass fibre plastic and an outer casing of exposed carbon. For very high stiffness and low weight."
Jul 25, 2007 3:44:37 AM
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Re: GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
I need a new GT2.
There is no other choice really. Ferrari? Dubious styling - disco zombie looks with a front bumper only a Ibiza coke dealer could love, who also wouldnt mind paying $1400 EU for the factory coat hooks. Mercedes AMG models? Useless boat anchors - best left for the elderly, terminally lazy and others who dont go fast anywhere.
Lamborghini LPXXX? Gorgeous, a Sunday only car and no stopping anywhere for anything unless you want a crowd to gather. It should come with its own fuel, video and catering trucks.
Porsche GT2 - Ruthless take no prisoners German ultimate speed machine! And it will start up everyday! Even if its been left in the snow all night! Flaw?
Needs a custom ski rack. Snow tires will likely be unobtanium first year. Did they test the rear wiper at 200mph + ???? Bet they did! 
There is no other choice really.
Ferrari? Dubious styling - disco zombie looks with a front bumper only a Ibiza coke dealer could love, who also wouldnt mind paying $1400 EU for the factory coat hooks. Mercedes AMG models? Useless boat anchors - best left for the elderly, terminally lazy and others who dont go fast anywhere.
Lamborghini LPXXX? Gorgeous, a Sunday only car and no stopping anywhere for anything unless you want a crowd to gather. It should come with its own fuel, video and catering trucks.
Porsche GT2 - Ruthless take no prisoners German ultimate speed machine!
And it will start up everyday! Even if its been left in the snow all night! Flaw?
Needs a custom ski rack. Snow tires will likely be unobtanium first year. Did they test the rear wiper at 200mph + ???? Bet they did!
Re: GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
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Very cool seat! I wonder how long before those are optional on the entire model range (and price)?
Grant,
They are optional on entire range(except Cayenne models), code P03 from MY08. Price? Just around little bit above Adaptive seats...
Re: GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
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I need a new GT2.
There is no other choice really.
Lamborghini LPXXX? Gorgeous, a Sunday only car and no stopping anywhere for anything unless you want a crowd to gather. It should come with its own fuel, video and catering trucks.
Porsche GT2 - Ruthless take no prisoners German ultimate speed machine!
Needs a custom ski rack. Snow tires will likely be unobtanium first year. Did they test the rear wiper at 200mph + ???? Bet they did!
Geez dude!
Sounds like your just as excited bout this machine as I am
I GOTTA have one....Even if I only eat bread for the next year afterwards I must have it.
Basalt/Cobal/Estoril mmmmmm
Re: GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
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JimFlat6 said:
I need a new GT2.
There is no other choice really.
Lamborghini LPXXX? Gorgeous, a Sunday only car and no stopping anywhere for anything unless you want a crowd to gather. It should come with its own fuel, video and catering trucks.
Porsche GT2 - Ruthless take no prisoners German ultimate speed machine!
Needs a custom ski rack. Snow tires will likely be unobtanium first year. Did they test the rear wiper at 200mph + ???? Bet they did!
Geez dude!
Sounds like your just as excited bout this machine as I am
I GOTTA have one....Even if I only eat bread for the next year afterwards I must have it.
Basalt/Cobal/Estoril mmmmmm
An elite class athlete, surviving on only bread - if you succeed, you will be richer for a multi-million-dollar book contract
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Official copy received by my Porsche dealer
This BS is really incredible. Look at the times of Gallardo, 599... All wrong. Sportauto achieved and published much better times already. What is Porsche thinking? Obviously, they expect to deal with foolish and uninformed customers
Re: GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
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AMA said:
Official copy received by my Porsche dealer
This BS is really incredible. Look at the times of Gallardo, 599... All wrong. Sportauto achieved and published much better times already. What is Porsche thinking? Obviously, they expect to deal with foolish and uninformed customers
incredible is the right word.
And where do they find these times by the way ? For e.g. the 7.55 for the F430 is the SA's time, but I have never heard of 7.59 ( neither SA nor in official presse release) for the 599 ?
Re: GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
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This BS is really incredible. Look at the times of Gallardo, 599... All wrong. Sportauto achieved and published much better times already. What is Porsche thinking? Obviously, they expect to deal with foolish and uninformed customers
What does that have to do with their GT2 time of 7:32? Even if the 599 and Gallardo times are off a few seconds, the 7:32 is still faster by a large margin
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eclou said:Quote:
MKSGR said:
This BS is really incredible. Look at the times of Gallardo, 599... All wrong. Sportauto achieved and published much better times already. What is Porsche thinking? Obviously, they expect to deal with foolish and uninformed customers
What does that have to do with their GT2 time of 7:32? Even if the 599 and Gallardo times are off a few seconds, the 7:32 is still faster by a large margin
This chart is pure marketing BS. Just remember: Porsche also claimed a 7:40 NBR time for the 997TT. Sportauto achieved 7:54...
If the same ratio should apply to the GT2 (i.e. 14s more than factory claim) the comparison would look as follows:
997GT2: 7:46 (7:32 + 0:14)
599GTB: 7:46 (Sportauto Supertest)
That's why I consider the above chart useless
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Who gives a s**t about SportAuto, that's not the question here. 7.32 is an awesome time!
Most of the people here at Rennteam do
Sportauto is the only available benchmark for performance cars. Certainly not perfect but still the best benchmark available.
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also take note, that Sport Auto is using a shorter version of the NBR as they do not close the track for their tests.
manufacturers have exclusive days where they have the whole track and use the whole length of the track....and yes, they do test competitiors cars for evaluation...and yes, they know how to drive them and extract the best performance.
this is from wikipedia:
[edit] Track lengths and timing
Not all of the following laptimes are comparable. The complete de:Nordschleife is 20.832 km long, full uninterrupted flying laps can only be done in closed sessions and race events like Castrol-Haugg-Cup.
During the industry testing sessions in which de:Sport auto records its "Supertest", the track can not be traveled at full speed past "Tribüne 13" (T13, grandstand 13) in order to allow safe access from the old exit/entrance there. Thus, Sportauto Supertests cover only about 20.6 km, which in average yields a 7 s shorter lap time compared to a full lap.
There are 5 sections on the 20.600 meters long Supertest-Nordschleife:
1st=3850 m
2nd=4235 m
3rd=4825 m
4th=4846 m
5th=2844 m
=20600 m
Some lap times are even claimed to have been done during tourist driving sessions. Because it is forbidden to race on tourist days as it is very dangerous to drive fast among the general traffic one should not try to measure the lap time on a tourist day. As the full main straight cannot be driven at speed due to the modern exit/entrance there, these laps are usually timed "bridge to gantry", which is only 19.1 km and thus about 30 seconds shorter.
manufacturers have exclusive days where they have the whole track and use the whole length of the track....and yes, they do test competitiors cars for evaluation...and yes, they know how to drive them and extract the best performance.
this is from wikipedia:
[edit] Track lengths and timing
Not all of the following laptimes are comparable. The complete de:Nordschleife is 20.832 km long, full uninterrupted flying laps can only be done in closed sessions and race events like Castrol-Haugg-Cup.
During the industry testing sessions in which de:Sport auto records its "Supertest", the track can not be traveled at full speed past "Tribüne 13" (T13, grandstand 13) in order to allow safe access from the old exit/entrance there. Thus, Sportauto Supertests cover only about 20.6 km, which in average yields a 7 s shorter lap time compared to a full lap.
There are 5 sections on the 20.600 meters long Supertest-Nordschleife:
1st=3850 m
2nd=4235 m
3rd=4825 m
4th=4846 m
5th=2844 m
=20600 m
Some lap times are even claimed to have been done during tourist driving sessions. Because it is forbidden to race on tourist days as it is very dangerous to drive fast among the general traffic one should not try to measure the lap time on a tourist day. As the full main straight cannot be driven at speed due to the modern exit/entrance there, these laps are usually timed "bridge to gantry", which is only 19.1 km and thus about 30 seconds shorter.
Re: GT2 standard sports bucket seats...
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TT Gasman said:
Who gives a s**t about SportAuto, that's not the question here. 7.32 is an awesome time!
Some people are incredible here.
When SA posts a by-third-party-validated time of 7.54 for the 997TT they question it, yet when Porsche PR claims 7.32 for the GT2 they are adamant about its validity.
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