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Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
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dhayek said:
fantastic pics kreso!!!! thanks. what are those pics?? magazine test?
Yes but, only in German-sorry...
http://www.classicdriver.de/de/magazine/3600.asp?id=3992
Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
dhayek said:
fantastic pics kreso!!!! thanks. what are those pics?? magazine test?
Yes but, only in German-sorry...
http://www.classicdriver.de/de/magazine/3600.asp?id=3992
Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
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nberry said:
The RS looks tired, old and stale. The Gallardo fast, young and fresh. What a dramatic difference in styling.
The SL is a couple of seconds faster around the Ring.
The color on each car is vomit inducing. YUCK!
With 115 extra horsepower it better be a few seconds quicker. That being said, I would take the G SL
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Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
The Gallardo is a fantastic car no doubt...but there are 3 big reasons I won't be buying one...
reliability/durability: I like to drive trackday cars on the track. Many Gallardo owners have reliability issues with just normal road driving. Driven hard on track will a Gallardo SL be reliable?
depreciation: Existing UK Gallardo owners I've spoken to reckon a SL may lose Pounds50K in value in the first year. That's $100K for our American friends!
backup/community: As I said I want to track my trackday car. I want support from specialists who understand how to set the car up properly. Mechanics that actually visit race circuits. I want the manfacturer to offer a warranty that isn't invalidated the moment I take the car on track. I want to see other owners tracking their cars too so that we can build common knowledge etc...
Does any of this exists with the Lambo
reliability/durability: I like to drive trackday cars on the track. Many Gallardo owners have reliability issues with just normal road driving. Driven hard on track will a Gallardo SL be reliable?
depreciation: Existing UK Gallardo owners I've spoken to reckon a SL may lose Pounds50K in value in the first year. That's $100K for our American friends!
backup/community: As I said I want to track my trackday car. I want support from specialists who understand how to set the car up properly. Mechanics that actually visit race circuits. I want the manfacturer to offer a warranty that isn't invalidated the moment I take the car on track. I want to see other owners tracking their cars too so that we can build common knowledge etc...
Does any of this exists with the Lambo
Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
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S1XXR said:
The Gallardo is a fantastic car no doubt...but there are 3 big reasons I won't be buying one...
reliability/durability: I like to drive trackday cars on the track. Many Gallardo owners have reliability issues with just normal road driving. Driven hard on track will a Gallardo SL be reliable?
depreciation: Existing UK Gallardo owners I've spoken to reckon a SL may lose Pounds50K in value in the first year. That's $100K for our American friends!
backup/community: As I said I want to track my trackday car. I want support from specialists who understand how to set the car up properly. Mechanics that actually visit race circuits. I want the manfacturer to offer a warranty that isn't invalidated the moment I take the car on track. I want to see other owners tracking their cars too so that we can build common knowledge etc...
Does any of this exists with the Lambo
Agree....Lambo seems to be a marketing failure in US mkt, despite competitive NBR times....
Why? Perhaps lackluster steering; woeful brake pedal feel/fade resistance (this is an alleged sportscar???
); no competent egear (even ?3 yrs post-G launch); 2yr warranty in US (1-2 yrs shorter than competitors); lack of daily-useability (mid-range tq, ground clearance issues, lack of trunk/interior storage compartments)... 
And, given L's lofty MSRP and poor resale value in US, L is far more expensive to own/operate than 997GT3RS/599....or 430CS.....
So....old-tech engineering; styling that largely appeals to teenage boys/elderly widget factory owners; and high ownership costs....will sell in limited quantities to certain demographics in FL/MC/SD/OC/LI/NJ.....
Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
VKSF,
Regarding mid-range torque... Did you really drove Gallardo(520hp version)? Gallardo is offering much more low and mid range torque then F430 for example or M6. Aside from 997 Turbo(manual with LSD, not slush box version) and Corvette Z06 that offers more power and torque feel IMHO.
Old technology in Gallardo/R8... Hmm... Again you are wrong IMO. 599 use new technology? Which one? Magnetic dampers and what else? Nothing of course since that F1Superfast(what a stupid name) is just updated version of F1 on F430. Sidebags in doors-now that's new tech for Ferrari. Becker Radio Navi as well-even some Lada drivers in Russia have that unit in their cars...
You do not like Gallardo styling(as well as Porsche's) but, you think that CL63 is beautifull? Oh my...
What are you doing here on rennteam BTW? You are bashing Porsche 997 Turbo, Gallardo, all Audi's and BMW's. It is absolutely clear that you are deeply biased MERCEDESEIN addcit with just one other car that you can except-599. On some Mercedes forums your attitude and comments will be most welcome...
CL63-brilliant handler with 2010kg's weight... CL63 more impressive and sporty to drive then 599...
Should I add more?
Sorry to say but, your are just MERCEDESEIN addict and all other sportscars basher.
Regarding mid-range torque... Did you really drove Gallardo(520hp version)? Gallardo is offering much more low and mid range torque then F430 for example or M6. Aside from 997 Turbo(manual with LSD, not slush box version) and Corvette Z06 that offers more power and torque feel IMHO.
Old technology in Gallardo/R8... Hmm... Again you are wrong IMO. 599 use new technology? Which one? Magnetic dampers and what else? Nothing of course since that F1Superfast(what a stupid name) is just updated version of F1 on F430. Sidebags in doors-now that's new tech for Ferrari. Becker Radio Navi as well-even some Lada drivers in Russia have that unit in their cars...
You do not like Gallardo styling(as well as Porsche's) but, you think that CL63 is beautifull? Oh my...
What are you doing here on rennteam BTW? You are bashing Porsche 997 Turbo, Gallardo, all Audi's and BMW's. It is absolutely clear that you are deeply biased MERCEDESEIN addcit with just one other car that you can except-599. On some Mercedes forums your attitude and comments will be most welcome...
CL63-brilliant handler with 2010kg's weight... CL63 more impressive and sporty to drive then 599...
Should I add more?
Sorry to say but, your are just MERCEDESEIN addict and all other sportscars basher.
Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
Well said Kreso!!
@ S1XXR,
1st comment: True Gallardo has problems but mostly early ones. I did get the some secrets of problems from the special Lambo people but no need to declare it in public. But no problems after 2006 ones
Depreacition: Yes it is not strong as Ferrari maybe but trust me in my country some Porsches do not save their price strongly.
Service: I did not have Lambo service in my country until i sent the car to Italy for repair.But Lambo service opened and yes they are good. As an ex-porsche owner i was fed up with Porsche service because of Cayennes in the service. They give a date 20days after your service apply.
Generally yes Porsche is more solid car than Lambo, however Lambo is much fun imo.
@ S1XXR,
1st comment: True Gallardo has problems but mostly early ones. I did get the some secrets of problems from the special Lambo people but no need to declare it in public. But no problems after 2006 ones
Depreacition: Yes it is not strong as Ferrari maybe but trust me in my country some Porsches do not save their price strongly.
Service: I did not have Lambo service in my country until i sent the car to Italy for repair.But Lambo service opened and yes they are good. As an ex-porsche owner i was fed up with Porsche service because of Cayennes in the service. They give a date 20days after your service apply.
Generally yes Porsche is more solid car than Lambo, however Lambo is much fun imo.
Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
I am really looking forward to seeing Gallardo SL's turning up at trackdays in the UK and showing their pace.
There is no question about it...the car is spectacular, the styling, the noise, the detailing. I want to talk to owners that have had really positiive ownership experiences and maybe next time I'm in the market I will be tempted.
There is no question about it...the car is spectacular, the styling, the noise, the detailing. I want to talk to owners that have had really positiive ownership experiences and maybe next time I'm in the market I will be tempted.
Re: Gallardo SL vs. 997 GT3RS
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KresoF1 said:
VKSF,
Regarding mid-range torque... Did you really drove Gallardo(520hp version)? Gallardo is offering much more low and mid range torque then F430 for example or M6. Aside from 997 Turbo(manual with LSD, not slush box version) and Corvette Z06 that offers more power and torque feel IMHO.
Old technology in Gallardo/R8... Hmm... Again you are wrong IMO. 599 use new technology? Which one? Magnetic dampers and what else? Nothing of course since that F1Superfast(what a stupid name) is just updated version of F1 on F430. Sidebags in doors-now that's new tech for Ferrari. Becker Radio Navi as well-even some Lada drivers in Russia have that unit in their cars...
You do not like Gallardo styling(as well as Porsche's) but, you think that CL63 is beautifull? Oh my...
What are you doing here on rennteam BTW? You are bashing Porsche 997 Turbo, Gallardo, all Audi's and BMW's. It is absolutely clear that you are deeply biased MERCEDESEIN addcit with just one other car that you can except-599. On some Mercedes forums your attitude and comments will be most welcome...
CL63-brilliant handler with 2010kg's weight... CL63 more impressive and sporty to drive then 599...
Should I add more?
Sorry to say but, your are just MERCEDESEIN addict and all other sportscars basher.
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