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Re: R8 test in EVO
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KresoF1 said:
Next month EVO's R8 test...
0-100mph: 10.4s
Bedford West Circuit: 1.22,1min
For comparison...
F430F1 1.24,2min
Porsche 997 Turbo 1.23,55min
Porsche 997 GT3 1.23,1min
Ferrari 599GTB 1.23,1min
Lamborghini Gallardo(520hp) 1.22,8min
Seems strange that it could be the slowest from 0-100mph, yet the fastest on that track (with street tires compared to the track tires on some of those other cars)...
May 27, 2007 11:00:14 PM
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Re: R8 test in EVO
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Gary(SF) said:
Unlikely results. One thing I always hate is trying to compare track times that are not same day/same tires/same driver. Just as an example, at my home track at Laguna Seca, lap times for the same car are 3 sec faster this year than last because of repaving.
Gary
Such is life! Laptimes are most definately not a science...
May 28, 2007 6:31:09 AM
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Re: R8 test in EVO
Ron,
Wait for few hours to check it out(Z06)...
Regarding R8 track time there is two possibilities:
-it is a typo in EVO(very unlikely!)
-R8 has the best chassic of all current sportscars
Just wait for next month Sport Auto for more R8 deliveries!
Next issue will feature R8 Supertest with some amazing results...
R8 achived 1.12,7min on Hockenheim(and it is pretty unclear on which tires since I know form my "deep throat" that difference between Pirelli Corsa's and Hero's in Hockenheim is only 0.1s for R8!) with Corsa tires and 1.12,8min on Pirelli P Zero Hero tires so, we know few facts then:
-R8 is on street tires faster then 997 Turbo(1.13,7min on Michelin PS2 N1)
-R8 is in all corners around Hockenheim as fast as Gallardo SL and the same time faster in almost all corners then 997 Turbo(with Michelin Cup's!), only on straight line Gallardo SL and 997 Turbo are faster.
Most important thing-BOTH Sport Auto and EVO are raving about R8. The only other cars that received such a praises recently is Gallardo SL...
For me conclusion is pretty clear!
Wait for few hours to check it out(Z06)...
Regarding R8 track time there is two possibilities:
-it is a typo in EVO(very unlikely!)
-R8 has the best chassic of all current sportscars
Just wait for next month Sport Auto for more R8 deliveries!
Next issue will feature R8 Supertest with some amazing results...
R8 achived 1.12,7min on Hockenheim(and it is pretty unclear on which tires since I know form my "deep throat" that difference between Pirelli Corsa's and Hero's in Hockenheim is only 0.1s for R8!) with Corsa tires and 1.12,8min on Pirelli P Zero Hero tires so, we know few facts then:
-R8 is on street tires faster then 997 Turbo(1.13,7min on Michelin PS2 N1)
-R8 is in all corners around Hockenheim as fast as Gallardo SL and the same time faster in almost all corners then 997 Turbo(with Michelin Cup's!), only on straight line Gallardo SL and 997 Turbo are faster.
Most important thing-BOTH Sport Auto and EVO are raving about R8. The only other cars that received such a praises recently is Gallardo SL...
For me conclusion is pretty clear!
Re: R8 test in EVO
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dhayek said:
faster than a G or a gt3 on a track? what is going on?
Maybe it's the Heros.....
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With "P ZERO THE HERO" Pirelli has consolidated its leadership in the high-end market: the new tire has already been chosen and homologated by manufacturers for the most recent and highest performance GT cars. Designed to manage the power of the hottest and most extreme cars, P Zero the Hero guarantees optimum performance for the most demanding motorists.
The return of the Pirelli wheel. The birth of the exclusive P Zero Club. Pirelli introduces to the global market P Zero the Hero, the new ultra-high performance tire developed for supercars and directly derived from the experience the firm has accumulated in a hundred years of competition (in fact, 2007 marks Pirelli's motorsport centenary). P Zero the Hero represents the most technologically advanced product to come out of Pirelli's research, a revolution for the tire industry, and offers the most demanding motorists unprecedented performance in all areas: sports handling, comfort and safety.
5 PATENTS FOR A REVOLUTIONARY PRODUCT. The latest addition to the P Zero collection, Pirelli's high-end market leading range that is celebrating its 20th anniversary in 2007, benefits from numerous innovative features developed by Pirelli and protected by five exclusive patents. The brand new tread pattern, the futuristic compounds and the innovative structure are the fruit of 24 months of development and testing and are already making P Zero the Hero the tire chosen by the manufacturers of the most sporting and extreme cars.
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DA.Co (Dynamic Asymmetric Contour). An exclusive asymmetric tread pattern that minimises dynamic deformation. DA.Co thus guarantees even wear with a uniform footprint at all speeds.
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PORSCHE
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Re: R8 test in EVO
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KresoF1 said:
Ron,
Wait for few hours to check it out(Z06)...
Regarding R8 track time there is two possibilities:
-it is a typo in EVO(very unlikely!)
-R8 has the best chassic of all current sportscars
Just wait for next month Sport Auto for more R8 deliveries!
Next issue will feature R8 Supertest with some amazing results...
R8 achived 1.12,7min on Hockenheim(and it is pretty unclear on which tires since I know form my "deep throat" that difference between Pirelli Corsa's and Hero's in Hockenheim is only 0.1s for R8!) with Corsa tires and 1.12,8min on Pirelli P Zero Hero tires so, we know few facts then:
-R8 is on street tires faster then 997 Turbo(1.13,7min on Michelin PS2 N1)
-R8 is in all corners around Hockenheim as fast as Gallardo SL and the same time faster in almost all corners then 997 Turbo(with Michelin Cup's!), only on straight line Gallardo SL and 997 Turbo are faster.
Most important thing-BOTH Sport Auto and EVO are raving about R8. The only other cars that received such a praises recently is Gallardo SL...
For me conclusion is pretty clear!
This is excellent news
Re: R8 test in EVO
Recieved my copy of Evo on Friday, they compare it against the Prodrive AMV8, M6 and a powerkit C4s.
You have seen the times as posted by Kreso, but they also give a verdict and it comes out top. They rate it higher than the porker for looks, speed and driving dynamics!!! A very interesting read and verdict especially from EVO who have always been very big fans of the 911
Sorry but I dont have a scanner, so cant post!
You have seen the times as posted by Kreso, but they also give a verdict and it comes out top. They rate it higher than the porker for looks, speed and driving dynamics!!! A very interesting read and verdict especially from EVO who have always been very big fans of the 911
Sorry but I dont have a scanner, so cant post!
Re: R8 test in EVO
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RichJ said:
Recieved my copy of Evo on Friday, they compare it against the Prodrive AMV8, M6 and a powerkit C4s.
You have seen the times as posted by Kreso, but they also give a verdict and it comes out top. They rate it higher than the porker for looks, speed and driving dynamics!!! A very interesting read and verdict especially from EVO who have always been very big fans of the 911
Sorry but I dont have a scanner, so cant post!
I am looking forward to receiving my copy !
Re: R8 test in EVO
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Byron said:
This results really surprise me.
Are they real?
Is that chassis so well done that can compensate the weigth and power difference?
If like this.....R8 has to be seriously considered
I will have a chat with Richard M (who set these times) and see if there was anything strange in the R8s spec. They set the 1:23:10 for the 997 GT3 on the same track just a few months ago (similar conditions, the track has not been re-surfaced since) so the comparison is valid.
As some of you know, I occasionally work with EVO on these track tests and the differences between the drivers (John Barker, Richard Meaden or Jethro) is very little. They can all lap within tenths of each other in identical cars.
I trust the results which is why I went straight out an bought and R8 this weekend (gulp!!). I should be getting it in December this year.
Re: R8 test in EVO
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SteveD said:Quote:
Byron said:
This results really surprise me.
Are they real?
Is that chassis so well done that can compensate the weigth and power difference?
If like this.....R8 has to be seriously considered
I will have a chat with Richard M (who set these times) and see if there was anything strange in the R8s spec. They set the 1:23:10 for the 997 GT3 on the same track just a few months ago (similar conditions, the track has not been re-surfaced since) so the comparison is valid.
As some of you know, I occasionally work with EVO on these track tests and the differences between the drivers (John Barker, Richard Meaden or Jethro) is very little. They can all lap within tenths of each other in identical cars.
I trust the results which is why I went straight out an bought and R8 this weekend (gulp!!). I should be getting it in December this year.
Steve,
Welcome to the club!
So-you, Ron and me are getting R8... Article is simply awsome as is R8!
I am looking forward to your comparison between R8 and M3(e92)!
Re: R8 test in EVO
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J.Seven said:
This only shows how track times can be deceiving.
J.Seven
This is not first test where R8 is very fast and Porsche isnt invincible car.
I only dont understant how is faster than 520 hp Gallardo ? Isnt this almost same car except the engine ?
Nice to see that R8 is fast as it looks
Re: R8 test in EVO
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Shakal said:Quote:
J.Seven said:
This only shows how track times can be deceiving.
J.Seven
This is not first test where R8 is very fast and Porsche isnt invincible car.
I only dont understant how is faster than 520 hp Gallardo ? Isnt this almost same car except the engine ?
Nice to see that R8 is fast as it looks
I don't mind competition being faster than Porsche, before being Porsche lover , I'm a sport car lover so the faster cars we get, the more we can to choose which is better for us, but this Audi R8 result is not accurate.
Lap times times is like Dinos, to much variable may show different results on the same car.
J.Seven
Re: R8 test in EVO
last test
Magazine Car&Driver
Audi R8 beats the 997 TT and AM V8 Vantage
1st Place
Audi R8 - 220 Points
Base Price - $109,720
Tested Price - $120,970
0-60 - 4.3
0-100 - 10.7
1/4 Mile 12.8 @ 112 mph
5-60 - 4.8
70-0 - 160 feet
300 ft skidpad - .97
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:35.76/94.0 mph
Lane change (mph) - 66.7
Observed miles per gallon - 14
Highs
Ballet-dancer balance and grace, eager responses, telepathic steering, internal combustion rarely sounds better.
Lows
Proportions awkward from some angles, uncomfortable dead-pedal height, blind in the rear quarters.
Verdict
Sports-car perfection from an unexpected source.
2nd Place
Porsche 911 Turbo - 210 Points
Base Price - $123,760
Tested Price - $141,510
0-60 - 3.8
0-100 - 9.2
1/4 Mile 12.2 @ 117 mph
5-60 - 4.8
70-0 - 159 feet
300 ft skidpad - .98
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:38.53/91.3 mph
Lane change (mph) - 65.0
Observed miles per gallon - 14
Highs
Omigawd thrust, never-fade brakes, limpet grip, gorgeous interior treatment, maximum Porsche mystique.
Lows
Spooky at the limits of adhesion, high interior noise levels, Prussian ride quality, snoot scrapes on driveway ramps.
Verdict
For 911 addicts who have no wish to be cured, Porsche Sturm und Drang just doesn't get any better than this.
3rd Place
Aston Martin V8 Vantage - 191 Points
Base Price - $117,150
Tested Price - $129,110
0-60 - 5.1
0-100 - 12.3
1/4 Mile 13.5 @ 106 mph
5-60 - 5.8
70-0 - 165 feet
300 ft skidpad - .93
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:40.73/89.4 mph
Lane change (mph) - 64.1
Observed miles per gallon - 13
Highs
Appealingly edgy update on classic GT-coupe shape, smooth operator on rough payment, irresistible V8 growl.
Lows
A bit too much body roll, nervous under hard braking, short on muscle among these heavy lifters.
Verdict
A stylish GT sophisticate that's a little out of its depth among these thoroughbreds.
Magazine Car&Driver
Audi R8 beats the 997 TT and AM V8 Vantage
1st Place
Audi R8 - 220 Points
Base Price - $109,720
Tested Price - $120,970
0-60 - 4.3
0-100 - 10.7
1/4 Mile 12.8 @ 112 mph
5-60 - 4.8
70-0 - 160 feet
300 ft skidpad - .97
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:35.76/94.0 mph
Lane change (mph) - 66.7
Observed miles per gallon - 14
Highs
Ballet-dancer balance and grace, eager responses, telepathic steering, internal combustion rarely sounds better.
Lows
Proportions awkward from some angles, uncomfortable dead-pedal height, blind in the rear quarters.
Verdict
Sports-car perfection from an unexpected source.
2nd Place
Porsche 911 Turbo - 210 Points
Base Price - $123,760
Tested Price - $141,510
0-60 - 3.8
0-100 - 9.2
1/4 Mile 12.2 @ 117 mph
5-60 - 4.8
70-0 - 159 feet
300 ft skidpad - .98
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:38.53/91.3 mph
Lane change (mph) - 65.0
Observed miles per gallon - 14
Highs
Omigawd thrust, never-fade brakes, limpet grip, gorgeous interior treatment, maximum Porsche mystique.
Lows
Spooky at the limits of adhesion, high interior noise levels, Prussian ride quality, snoot scrapes on driveway ramps.
Verdict
For 911 addicts who have no wish to be cured, Porsche Sturm und Drang just doesn't get any better than this.
3rd Place
Aston Martin V8 Vantage - 191 Points
Base Price - $117,150
Tested Price - $129,110
0-60 - 5.1
0-100 - 12.3
1/4 Mile 13.5 @ 106 mph
5-60 - 5.8
70-0 - 165 feet
300 ft skidpad - .93
Willow Springs International Raceway Lap Time - 1:40.73/89.4 mph
Lane change (mph) - 64.1
Observed miles per gallon - 13
Highs
Appealingly edgy update on classic GT-coupe shape, smooth operator on rough payment, irresistible V8 growl.
Lows
A bit too much body roll, nervous under hard braking, short on muscle among these heavy lifters.
Verdict
A stylish GT sophisticate that's a little out of its depth among these thoroughbreds.
Re: R8 test in EVO
Andrea,
Thanks a lot! I wanted to post this C&D test results myself but, you were faster! 
So, sceptics... Were are you? We need and want you!
R8 is faster around Willow Spring almost 3s then 997 Turbo...
German Sport Auto, Uk's EVO and USA C&D reached same final conclusion-R8 is a masterpiece... Best chassis of all current sportscars on the market.
But, for some of you even this C&D test will prove to be not truthfull or legit...
Thanks a lot! I wanted to post this C&D test results myself but, you were faster!
So, sceptics... Were are you? We need and want you!
R8 is faster around Willow Spring almost 3s then 997 Turbo...
German Sport Auto, Uk's EVO and USA C&D reached same final conclusion-R8 is a masterpiece... Best chassis of all current sportscars on the market.
But, for some of you even this C&D test will prove to be not truthfull or legit...
Re: R8 test in EVO
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KresoF1 said:
Andrea,
Thanks a lot! I wanted to post this C&D test results myself but, you were faster!
So, sceptics... Were are you? We need and want you!
R8 is faster around Willow Spring almost 3s then 997 Turbo...
German Sport Auto, Uk's EVO and USA C&D reached same final conclusion-R8 is a masterpiece... Best chassis of all current sportscars on the market.
But, for some of you even this C&D test will prove to be not truthfull or legit...
Yes Kreso,it's not easy to admit the audi r8 superiority...
May 28, 2007 3:15:19 PM
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Re: R8 test in EVO
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KresoF1 said:
Ron,
Wait for few hours to check it out(Z06)...
Regarding R8 track time there is two possibilities:
-it is a typo in EVO(very unlikely!)
-R8 has the best chassic of all current sportscars
Just wait for next month Sport Auto for more R8 deliveries!
Next issue will feature R8 Supertest with some amazing results...
R8 achived 1.12,7min on Hockenheim(and it is pretty unclear on which tires since I know form my "deep throat" that difference between Pirelli Corsa's and Hero's in Hockenheim is only 0.1s for R8!) with Corsa tires and 1.12,8min on Pirelli P Zero Hero tires so, we know few facts then:
-R8 is on street tires faster then 997 Turbo(1.13,7min on Michelin PS2 N1)
-R8 is in all corners around Hockenheim as fast as Gallardo SL and the same time faster in almost all corners then 997 Turbo(with Michelin Cup's!), only on straight line Gallardo SL and 997 Turbo are faster.
Most important thing-BOTH Sport Auto and EVO are raving about R8. The only other cars that received such a praises recently is Gallardo SL...
For me conclusion is pretty clear!
Thanks buddy
.
May 28, 2007 3:59:27 PM
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Re: R8 test in EVO
Thank you Kresso for the valuable info. Very clarifying.
Still, I'd love to see such comparisons in the Ring. I ignore how is the circuit where they did.
In any case, very good news. I felt rather disappointed (and surprised) with the first figures of the R8, but this ones beguin to make sense....even I still need to "see" how a chassis can make such a difference with much more powerful engines.
The "R10" will be another story....
Still, I'd love to see such comparisons in the Ring. I ignore how is the circuit where they did.
In any case, very good news. I felt rather disappointed (and surprised) with the first figures of the R8, but this ones beguin to make sense....even I still need to "see" how a chassis can make such a difference with much more powerful engines.
The "R10" will be another story....
Re: R8 test in EVO
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Byron said:
Thank you Kresso for the valuable info. Very clarifying.
Still, I'd love to see such comparisons in the Ring. I ignore how is the circuit where they did.
In any case, very good news. I felt rather disappointed (and surprised) with the first figures of the R8, but this ones beguin to make sense....even I still need to "see" how a chassis can make such a difference with much more powerful engines.
The "R10" will be another story....
Question is how faster R10 will be, because it will be heavier and mybie handling wont be good as R8 has. Gallardo is on this track slower than R8 for almost a second..
May 28, 2007 6:10:21 PM
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