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Sep 19, 2017 12:14:37 AM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014

2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Car list:

Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
Aston Martin DB11
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport
Ferrari 488 GTB
Lexus LC 500
Mazda MX-5 Miata RF Club
McLaren 570GT
Mercedes-AMG GT R
Nissan GT-R NISMO
Porsche 718 Cayman S
Porsche 911 Turbo S

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12th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wvrz0p-26w

11th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ldMRvg3wQ8

10th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbLUFXxJHZc

9th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4lZMr57MhQ

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12th -- Aston Martin DB11 ------------ 1:40.05
11th -- Nissan GT-R Nismo ------------ 1:35.01
10th -- Mazda MX-5 Miata RF Club -- 1:51.43
9th --- McLaren 570GT ------------------ 1:34.87

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Sep 19, 2017 12:48:17 AM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Impressive time for the GT given that it was on standard Pzeros. Corsas would cut it down further, though I don't think they make Trofeos that fit it.

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Sep 19, 2017 1:26:53 AM

AP911: Senior; Loc: UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 566, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 28, 2017; Reply to: noone1

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

noone1:
Impressive time for the GT given that it was on standard Pzeros. Corsas would cut it down further, though I don't think they make Trofeos that fit it.

Still, it came out 9th out of 12 and got beaten by a Comaro and a Lexus in a best driver's car. Smiley

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Sep 19, 2017 2:53:22 AM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: AP911

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

AP911:
noone1:
Impressive time for the GT given that it was on standard Pzeros. Corsas would cut it down further, though I don't think they make Trofeos that fit it.

Still, it came out 9th out of 12 and got beaten by a Comaro and a Lexus in a best driver's car.

Don't forget a giant Alfa sedan too...

There is no way to measure best driver's car. It's just some weird opinion based on nothing objective. The 570S won it last year and I assure you that the 570 GT is barely any different in the real world. So a slightly softer version of last year's winner is now worse than some giant Lexus coupe and a giant Alfa sedan? Yeah, ok.

Softer suspension wreaked havoc on the car? Gimme a break. You don't set that kind of a lap time on Pzeros in a car that has big problems.

We all know that there is no way in hell that an Alfa sedan is more of a driver's car than a 570 GT.

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Sep 19, 2017 3:17:35 AM

AP911: Senior; Loc: UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 566, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 28, 2017; Reply to: noone1

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I would pick it over the 570s as I would think it offers a better everyday usability package. But it really lacks a proper exhaust sound.

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Sep 19, 2017 7:26:49 AM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: AP911

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

again not worth just even taking a Peak look.....

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Sep 19, 2017 10:15:22 AM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: BjoernB

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

So what won GT R?

I would imagine:

1. GT R

2. 488

4. Porsche TTS/Camaro? It is an American magazine after all.....

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Sep 19, 2017 1:00:55 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

This year's result will put in a negative perspective all previous contests...

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Sep 19, 2017 2:06:50 PM

sfo: Rennteam Pro; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 2093, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

well done LC500 for finishing the top 8 !!

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Sep 19, 2017 7:45:25 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: sfo

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

8th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R6xljVTXwc

7th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwk4ryR1tHs

6th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeJQbxjEMRE

5th Video not available yet

8th -- Lexus LC500 --------------------------- 1:43.40
7th -- Chevrolet Corvette Grand Sport -- 1:35.62
6th -- Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio ---- 1:39.68
5th -- Mercedes-AMG GT R ------------------ 1:33.01

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Sep 19, 2017 8:05:13 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Yup, a giant Alfa sedan is better that legitimate sports cars and exotics cars as far as "drivers" are concerned lol

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Sep 19, 2017 8:17:55 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: noone1

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

I would take that Aston over anything so far...

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Sep 19, 2017 9:42:59 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_XdfqS42Zg

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Sep 19, 2017 11:24:54 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Wow the GT R came 5th!

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Sep 20, 2017 9:20:35 AM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

2017 Best Driver's Car: Ferrari 488 GTB

Complete List:
12th: Aston Martin DB11
11th: Nissan GT-R Nismo
10th: Mazda MX-5 RF
9th: McLaren 570GT
8th: Lexus LC 500
7th: Corvette C7 Grand Sport
6th: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
5th: Mercedes-AMG GT R
4th: Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
3rd: Porsche 911 Turbo S
2nd: Porsche 718 Cayman S
1st: Ferrari 488 GTB

Laptimes:
1.51,43 - Mazda MX-5 RF
1.43,40 - Lexus LC 500
1.40,05 - Aston Martin DB11
1.40,05 - Porsche 718 Cayman S
1.39,65 - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
1.36,02 - Corvette C7 Grand Sport
1.35,01 - Nissan GT-R Nismo
1.34,87 - McLaren 570GT
1.34,30 - Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
1.33,21 - Porsche 911 Turbo S (on P Zero Corsa)
1.33,01 - Mercedes-AMG GT R
1.31,68 - Ferrari 488 GTB (on Cup 2)

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Sep 20, 2017 10:07:32 AM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Was the 488 a customer car? That’s an amazing time from the 488.

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Sep 20, 2017 12:18:08 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

I would assume it's a customer car. Whether those tires are from a few years ago off a Speciale or whether they are new super sticky ones is another question. Note that Cup2 is not an option on the 488 from the factory.

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Sep 20, 2017 1:59:47 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: noone1

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Almost 2 seconds off a GT R? Hmm

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Sep 20, 2017 2:35:43 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: Topspeed

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Quartermile Times (ranking in World's greatest drag race soon):
14,9 s @ 148,7 kph - Mazda MX-5 RF
13,0 s @ 176,7 kph - Lexus LC 500
12,2 s @ 186,9 kph - Corvette C7 Grand Sport
12,1 s @ 192,8 kph - Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
12,0 s @ 184,9 kph - Porsche 718 Cayman S
11,9 s @ 200,7 kph - Aston Martin DB11
11,7 s @ 198,0 kph - Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1LE
11,4 s @ 205,4 kph - Mercedes-AMG GT R
11,0 s @ 204,1 kph - Nissan GT-R Nismo
10,7 s @ 212,3 kph - McLaren 570GT
10,6 s @ 208,6 kph - Porsche 911 Turbo S
10,6 s @ 217,6 kph - Ferrari 488 GTB

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Sep 20, 2017 6:25:27 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

4th https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8YaDLR6Ayc

3rd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRyeTxlvbe4

2nd https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYRWMhCly9w

1st https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhW8T2i0-ug

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Sep 21, 2017 9:50:41 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: Topspeed

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvk18vx-nrY

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Sep 22, 2017 1:38:24 AM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Go tesla p100d. Beat Ferrari and Porsche. Guess at least my Porsche came in 3rd indecision after my other car came 1st smiley

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Sep 22, 2017 2:27:43 AM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

With a 3 mile runway, they should have done some longer runs too...

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Sep 22, 2017 3:18:07 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Grant

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

Grant:
With a 3 mile runway, they should have done some longer runs too...

Yeah but that would make the Tesla looks bad.......................

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Sep 22, 2017 3:53:15 AM

JoeRockhead: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Topside , Monaco; Posts: 8033, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 17, 2007; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
Grant:
With a 3 mile runway, they should have done some longer runs too...

Yeah but that would make the Tesla looks bad.......................

That or a corner.

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Sep 22, 2017 6:04:55 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12680, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: JoeRockhead

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JoeRockhead:
Whoopsy:
Grant:
With a 3 mile runway, they should have done some longer runs too...

Yeah but that would make the Tesla looks bad.......................

That or a corner.

Here we go again! Smiley

I think we should ban all this Tesla crap here at Rennteam. Smiley

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Sep 22, 2017 10:10:23 AM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: Rossi

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Well as you can guess I love my p100d. It is also the reason I am getting a GT3. My turbo can’t keep up in the speed limits I drive in. I can’t drive my turbo on track because it’s a cab. And obviously the GT3 is much more emotional. My p100d gets me to my train station real quick - you have to admit it is an impressive straight line sedan.

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Sep 22, 2017 10:30:17 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: EnglishManInNY

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There is a reason they left the R8 out this year... smiley angry

Yes, let's ban Tesla "crap"... indecision

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Sep 22, 2017 11:55:38 AM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: JoeRockhead

Re: 2017 Motor Trend Best Driver's Car

JoeRockhead:
Whoopsy:
Grant:
With a 3 mile runway, they should have done some longer runs too...

Yeah but that would make the Tesla looks bad.......................

That or a corner.

Smiley

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Sep 22, 2017 2:29:34 PM

lukestern: Expert; Loc: Somewhere , United Kingdom; Posts: 1377, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

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Carlos from Spain:
JoeRockhead:
Whoopsy:
Grant:
With a 3 mile runway, they should have done some longer runs too...

Yeah but that would make the Tesla looks bad.......................

That or a corner.

You guys are really funny with your Tesla hate. It must really hurt your feelings a lot! If it didn't why bother repeating this over and over and over and over again? Smiley
Can't wait for the next similar post. Maybe over in the R8 thread? Smiley

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