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tortesq1 said:
Crash,
I think I know exactly to whom I am speaking. Your comment sounds not only anti-997TT, but unequivocally anti-(North) American. Do you think that all (North) Americans are posseurs (sic for posers) who drive at 55 mph all day ? That is an extraordinarily arrogant mean spirited assumption. Where is Timbuktu, EU anyway ? With all due respect, is that in the European Union ? Are you telling me that the 997TT performs less well in YOUR special Country, or anyone elses for that matter ? I further disagree that ring times (which are all out 100% of the time) are even remotely relevant to my daily driving experiences. When have you ever been able to go all out in your TT on a legal road for seven or eight minutes without interruption (other than on a relatively straight road like the autobahn) ? Please tell me, as I'd love to buy some property there. Finally, I am not demanding that you rave about the 997TT or shutup. On the contrary, I am respectfully requesting that those members that are not TT "fans" go to a F430/Gallardo/Z06 board. You already stated that your buddy will not buy a 997TT, but has opted for a 599 (the best there is). That being said, why oh why would he stay on this board and lambast the 997TT at every turn ? A 599 owner or prospective owner can go to Fchat with dingleberry. Seems to me that you (and your senior members) employ extreme negativism with each and every comment to make your point. If you don't like the 997TT just go away. Most board members are here because the LIKE the 997TT !!! Wake up !!!
It would seem that it is enough toi sneeze the wrong way nowadays to be interpreted as anti-American. Fact is, most owners in NA will have absolutely no chance of maxing out their cars, period.
Regarding Ring times, they are not used for gauging the car's ability as a daily driver. They are used as an assessment of its driving capabilities. Heck, if you use the Turbo as a commuter, then more power to you, as it will be hard to beat, but it isn't what people expected it to be. The older model with 60 less horsepower, no LSD and inferior brakes beats it given equal rubber - THAT is what is bothering most people.
Regarding maxing out the car, believe it or not, there are times here when I could max out even a Veyron and not need to release the gas pedal for anything but a 160 mph curve. That is something virtually unknown to you guys. There are also scores of perfectly empty roads here, either through forests, over mountain passes or just plain old blasting through the corn fields. So yes, the car can definitely be maxed out.
Why is Markus still here? Well, you may or may not realize this, but Porsche monitors this site - complaints are welcome. Second, he likes the car - we all do. It's just the sheer disappointment at the car actually being inferior on so many counts to the old model that gets him. Again, he will stick around and his criticism of Porsche will keep being welcome.
So, why do we stick around the 997TT board? Hard to figure out, isn't it? In short, we all love Porsche. It is a brand with a glorious history, cars that are reliable, faster than the competition and pretty much in a league of their own. Most people took the Cayenne as a necessary evil. Porsche would raise hard-needed cash with it to develop its sports cars. Fine, they can make coffee machines for all I care, as long as they keep delivering the superior 911s. The problem is that that they haven't done it this time. The Gallardo and the F430 are just as fast as the new Turbo, both in the straight line as in the twisties. Both seem easier to drive at the limit than the new Turbo (that wasn't the case with the old one). They have better exhaust notes. Granted, out of the three I've just named, I prefer the Turbo for its all-encompassing usability. That, however, is no reason to give the car credit where it is not due. It is not in any way or form faster than the 996 Turbo S. The developers totally screwed up with the PTM system and the only way they will fix it is if they see that people care. I suggest you use the ignore function if MKSGR's posts (or mine) bother you that much. That is what is so great about the internet - you only read what you want to, even if that may cost you a bit of added knowledge.
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But there is a hugely different joy of ownership and skill curve between finding limited oportunities to do a safe 120mph dash and having the pleasure of hitting 160MPH+ at will, whenever possible and without regard to flashing blue lights appearing behind or ahead.
I love my turbo...but need your help. I'm not looking for a 600 horsepower monster that will blow up or require a kings ransom to improve upon. I would like to make it slightly more aggressive... 
