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Re: New CL65 AMG revealed
Would argue new CL platform is best overall driver's car today when calc'g safety/perf/comfort/utility/qual of tech, materials, ergonomics, etc 
....am immensely impressed by MB's achievement w/new CL 
That said, have my doubts re: CL65
.....unless MB's chassis engineers have innovated mechanical/hardware/software solutions to manage 65's trac issues in wet or even dry, uneven pavement, I suspect many jaded, cost-no-object buyers will rather opt for CL63 w/030 Perf Pckge.....63 motor may lack relative hp/tq vs 65, but overall traction, 250lb lighter 63 motor's impact on steering/handling feel and advantages of NA throttle linearity/exhaust note may overwhelm 65....except on dry, traffic-free stretches of derestricted AB....but US buys some 65% of global 65 production, often used at <100MPH on bumpy urban fwys/streets in CA/NYC, where it does occasionally rain.... 
In any case, will trade in my '07 CL600 for CL63 030 in Jul....and will trade in 63 for 65 in Fall to do own back-to-back comparo....perhaps will go back to 63 if 65's trac issues are unresolved....or stay w/65 for a few mths until some higher tech/more debugged iteration is released...perhaps a new, latest-tech, lighter NA V12 from AMG???.... 
....am immensely impressed by MB's achievement w/new CL That said, have my doubts re: CL65
.....unless MB's chassis engineers have innovated mechanical/hardware/software solutions to manage 65's trac issues in wet or even dry, uneven pavement, I suspect many jaded, cost-no-object buyers will rather opt for CL63 w/030 Perf Pckge.....63 motor may lack relative hp/tq vs 65, but overall traction, 250lb lighter 63 motor's impact on steering/handling feel and advantages of NA throttle linearity/exhaust note may overwhelm 65....except on dry, traffic-free stretches of derestricted AB....but US buys some 65% of global 65 production, often used at <100MPH on bumpy urban fwys/streets in CA/NYC, where it does occasionally rain.... In any case, will trade in my '07 CL600 for CL63 030 in Jul....and will trade in 63 for 65 in Fall to do own back-to-back comparo....perhaps will go back to 63 if 65's trac issues are unresolved....or stay w/65 for a few mths until some higher tech/more debugged iteration is released...perhaps a new, latest-tech, lighter NA V12 from AMG???....
Re: New CL65 AMG revealed
CL63 is the car that makes my mouth water more than any other atm. I got to see a 550 in the flesh in south beach and I must admit, it was simply stunning.
I agree with VK, simply the pinnacle of the layman's daily driver.
The 65 seems like overkill to me. Its only habitat of comfort would be a long autobahn
I agree with VK, simply the pinnacle of the layman's daily driver.
The 65 seems like overkill to me. Its only habitat of comfort would be a long autobahn
Re: New CL65 AMG revealed
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VKSF said:
Would argue new CL platform is best overall driver's car today when calc'g safety/perf/comfort/utility/qual of tech, materials, ergonomics, etc
That said, have my doubts re: CL65
In any case, will trade in my '07 CL600 for CL63 030 in Jul....and will trade in 63 for 65 in Fall to do own back-to-back comparo....perhaps will go back to 63 if 65's trac issues are unresolved....or stay w/65 for a few mths until some higher tech/more debugged iteration is released...perhaps a new, latest-tech, lighter NA V12 from AMG???....
I could imagine that the CL65 will be close to perfection. Compared to the CL63 the 65 offers lots of low rev torque. Also, on a fast AB trip, additional hp cannot hurt either
However, I agree that the traction issues are a major impediment to buying this car. If somebody at MB cared to develop and launch AWD for the 65 series these cars would be much more attractive
With AWD I would have no arguments left not to buy it 
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VKSF said:
Would argue new CL platform is best overall driver's car today when calc'g safety/perf/comfort/utility/qual of tech, materials, ergonomics, etc
That said, have my doubts re: CL65
In any case, will trade in my '07 CL600 for CL63 030 in Jul....and will trade in 63 for 65 in Fall to do own back-to-back comparo....perhaps will go back to 63 if 65's trac issues are unresolved....or stay w/65 for a few mths until some higher tech/more debugged iteration is released...perhaps a new, latest-tech, lighter NA V12 from AMG???....
I could imagine that the CL65 will be close to perfection. Compared to the CL63 the 65 offers lots of low rev torque. Also, on a fast AB trip, additional hp cannot hurt either
However, I agree that the traction issues are a major impediment to buying this car. If somebody at MB cared to develop and launch AWD for the 65 series these cars would be much more attractive
The RS6 is coming and it will be almost as fast!
And AWD!
Re: New CL65 AMG revealed
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MKSGR said:Quote:
VKSF said:
Would argue new CL platform is best overall driver's car today when calc'g safety/perf/comfort/utility/qual of tech, materials, ergonomics, etc
That said, have my doubts re: CL65
In any case, will trade in my '07 CL600 for CL63 030 in Jul....and will trade in 63 for 65 in Fall to do own back-to-back comparo....perhaps will go back to 63 if 65's trac issues are unresolved....or stay w/65 for a few mths until some higher tech/more debugged iteration is released...perhaps a new, latest-tech, lighter NA V12 from AMG???....
I could imagine that the CL65 will be close to perfection. Compared to the CL63 the 65 offers lots of low rev torque. Also, on a fast AB trip, additional hp cannot hurt either
However, I agree that the traction issues are a major impediment to buying this car. If somebody at MB cared to develop and launch AWD for the 65 series these cars would be much more attractive
The RS6 is coming and it will be almost as fast!
That is correct. However, the CL is a different class of a car - the perfect luxurious cruiser. No effort spared
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Re: New CL65 AMG revealed
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Has anyone ever managed to convert one of these to manual transmission? Just wondering if it could be done
Why would you want to do that? Renntech probably could, but manual in a luxo-cruiser?
Well the CL65 AMG is more of a sporty car to me. I'm not big on convertibles so aside from the SLR this is the top of the line coupe they make
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Hurst said:
RS6's presence is insignificant next to a CL63/65...
that's why you buy this car, no?
The RS6 has enough presence for me. Not to mention half as expensive and AWD, which means it can be used everyday (try and use the CL65 in the winter
if I get a CL65 I'll move to LA or Miami where the winter wont be a problem. Keeping the girls from damaging the upholstery will be another issue
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Hurst said:
RS6's presence is insignificant next to a CL63/65...
that's why you buy this car, no?
The RS6 has enough presence for me. Not to mention half as expensive and AWD, which means it can be used everyday (try and use the CL65 in the winter
if I get a CL65 I'll move to LA or Miami where the winter wont be a problem. Keeping the girls from damaging the upholstery will be another issue
Just get a pair of handcuffs, lined with tiger fur on them to restrain them and then slap them with a sticker - "property of OG Hurst, yo!"
In any case, make sure she's on top and it won't happen
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