Mar 28, 2007 10:08:29 PM
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Mar 28, 2007 10:16:00 PM
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Re: Vote for your favourite 997 tyres
Here are some relevant Tire Rack surveys:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS
Mar 29, 2007 7:27:25 AM
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Mar 29, 2007 10:24:54 AM
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Re: Vote for your favourite 997 tyres
No guys, I've only done about 2700 miles in my 997S so far so I have plenty of treadwear left!
I just posted this thread out of general curiosity and so that it might be informative to others here.
BTW, just fyi, the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A (N0) tyre (rated 7th) is Porsche N-spec approved but is not the same thing as the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position tyre (which is rated 1st but which is not Porsche N-spec).
[I'm no tyre expert but I am aware that Porsche N-spec tyres are produced in collaboration with Porsche. Such N-spec tyres tend to have stiffer side walls for instance. Also, in the UK, OPCs tend to state that they will only sell a car if it has Porsche N-spec tyres fitted].
Here in the UK, Kwik-Fit, a major chain of garages carrying out tyre, battery and exhaust replacement has, from time to time, had a promotional offer where, if you buy 4 Michelin tyres in one go, you get 25% off the total price. It's been a very popular deal.
My local OPC (Porsche East London) also told me that the only tyre they keep in stock at all times is the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 (N1). All the others have to be ordered in (takes anything from 1 day to 2 weeks).
Since I only use my car on the public roads, I must say that, one day, when I need to change all 4 of my tyres, I might be tempted to try the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS for their longevity. They are rated 400 AA A compared to 220 AA A for the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2. I did a quick search on the Tire Rack website and the RE960AS were listed as one of the 'best sellers'. I know that different tyre manufacturers measure these ratings somewhat differently but if you compare within the same brand (to eliminate any discrepancy caused thereby), the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tyres are rated only 140 AA A. It is theoretically possible therefore that the RE960AS tyre may last 2-3 times longer than the RE050A tyre. Let's see how long my currents Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s last!
Being frank, IMHO there's a certain amount of showmanship at play in my view i.e. enthusiasts like to think of themselves as people who always put performance first and cost a distant second. As such, they couldn't be seen fitting anything less than a max performance tyre to their sports car for fear of what others might think. I think that's indicative of some kind of insecurity on their part. Don't get me wrong - there are people out there who buy a more expensive tyre (like the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2) for good reason and who may appreciate any additional performance they might offer.
Overall, I think we should all just choose the tyres that meet our needs. A guy who only drives 3000 miles per year using his 911 for pleasure at the weekends may treat cost factors differently from someone doing 30000 miles per year in a 911 used as a daily commuter car.
Just my thoughts....
I just posted this thread out of general curiosity and so that it might be informative to others here.
BTW, just fyi, the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A (N0) tyre (rated 7th) is Porsche N-spec approved but is not the same thing as the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position tyre (which is rated 1st but which is not Porsche N-spec).
[I'm no tyre expert but I am aware that Porsche N-spec tyres are produced in collaboration with Porsche. Such N-spec tyres tend to have stiffer side walls for instance. Also, in the UK, OPCs tend to state that they will only sell a car if it has Porsche N-spec tyres fitted].
Here in the UK, Kwik-Fit, a major chain of garages carrying out tyre, battery and exhaust replacement has, from time to time, had a promotional offer where, if you buy 4 Michelin tyres in one go, you get 25% off the total price. It's been a very popular deal.
My local OPC (Porsche East London) also told me that the only tyre they keep in stock at all times is the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 (N1). All the others have to be ordered in (takes anything from 1 day to 2 weeks).
Since I only use my car on the public roads, I must say that, one day, when I need to change all 4 of my tyres, I might be tempted to try the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS for their longevity. They are rated 400 AA A compared to 220 AA A for the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2. I did a quick search on the Tire Rack website and the RE960AS were listed as one of the 'best sellers'. I know that different tyre manufacturers measure these ratings somewhat differently but if you compare within the same brand (to eliminate any discrepancy caused thereby), the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tyres are rated only 140 AA A. It is theoretically possible therefore that the RE960AS tyre may last 2-3 times longer than the RE050A tyre. Let's see how long my currents Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s last!
Being frank, IMHO there's a certain amount of showmanship at play in my view i.e. enthusiasts like to think of themselves as people who always put performance first and cost a distant second. As such, they couldn't be seen fitting anything less than a max performance tyre to their sports car for fear of what others might think. I think that's indicative of some kind of insecurity on their part. Don't get me wrong - there are people out there who buy a more expensive tyre (like the Michelin Pilot Sport PS2) for good reason and who may appreciate any additional performance they might offer.
Overall, I think we should all just choose the tyres that meet our needs. A guy who only drives 3000 miles per year using his 911 for pleasure at the weekends may treat cost factors differently from someone doing 30000 miles per year in a 911 used as a daily commuter car.
Just my thoughts....
Mar 29, 2007 5:19:45 PM
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Re: Vote for your favourite 997 tyres
Easy if I were to judge by the frequency you post I'd say that your lovely P-car would have more than 10k miles on it. I'm a bit surprised to realize that you only have 2.7k but anyway this is the best alternative to not bothering yourself with washing/polishing/waxing.
FYI I took delivery of mine back in October 06 and have already 10k km/1,609=6.2k miles
FYI I took delivery of mine back in October 06 and have already 10k km/1,609=6.2k miles
Mar 29, 2007 7:38:25 PM
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Re: Vote for your favourite 997 tyres
LOL function_analysi 
There's actually a few good reasons why I have only driven 2700miles: 1) I don't use the car to travel to work (I am lucky I just walk! It's only 10 minutes walk away) so I just use it at weekends for pleasure (and grocery shopping!), 2) the weather here hasn't been great over the Winter so I haven't made many long trips away from London...just a couple of trips to the South coast, and 3) I've been trying to do my engine break-in with longer journeys rather than too many very short trips (in which the engine and other parts don't become properly warmed up)...
Okay, I'll go out for a drive later tonight Happy now? 
There's actually a few good reasons why I have only driven 2700miles: 1) I don't use the car to travel to work (I am lucky I just walk! It's only 10 minutes walk away) so I just use it at weekends for pleasure (and grocery shopping!), 2) the weather here hasn't been great over the Winter so I haven't made many long trips away from London...just a couple of trips to the South coast
, and 3) I've been trying to do my engine break-in with longer journeys rather than too many very short trips (in which the engine and other parts don't become properly warmed up)...Okay, I'll go out for a drive later tonight
Happy now?
Mar 29, 2007 7:53:47 PM
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Re: Vote for your favourite 997 tyres
You are always more than welcome to come over to Athens instead of taking some repetitive short trips to the South-brown-water-coast. Trust me this is gonna be the nicest trip in your "lady's" life.
It's gonna also be a convenient opportunity to experience the cosmopolitan flair of the Athenian capital.
By then, enjoy your tonight's drive. Then I'll go to sleep much more happy
P/S BTW, what's your favorite music? Specifically what's your play list when driving your lovely P-lady?
It's gonna also be a convenient opportunity to experience the cosmopolitan flair of the Athenian capital.
By then, enjoy your tonight's drive. Then I'll go to sleep much more happy
P/S BTW, what's your favorite music? Specifically what's your play list when driving your lovely P-lady?
Mar 29, 2007 8:20:35 PM
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Re: Vote for your favourite 997 tyres
Thanks Actually, it's funny you should say this - my wife and I were already planning to visit Athens in Spring next year to celebrate our next wedding anniversary.
We're planning a 24 day 3500 mile drive around France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Italy and Monaco in August this year so I am hoping to enjoy some great drives and views on that journey.
Music? For driving, I love rock like Coldplay, the Verve, Keane, the Eagles, U2, Nickelback, Stereophonics, Travis, Red Hot Chilli Peppers. As for dance, I love Madonna's new album 'Confessions on a Dancefloor', Jamiroquai, Robbie Williams, Nelly Furtado's album 'Loose', Black Eyed Peas. Plus, I love modern Turkish music like Tarkan.
I'm listening to Nelly Furtado's Say It Right, All Good Things (Come To An End) and Promiscuous right now on iTunes while I'm surfing Rennteam...I have to say - she's really raised her game since last August when she released Maneater.... I mean - she used to be known for awful songs like "I'm Like A Bird"!!
I've burnt MP3s with about 170 songs on each one that I love listening to when I'm enjoying a good drive...
Actually, it's funny you should say this - my wife and I were already planning to visit Athens in Spring next year to celebrate our next wedding anniversary.We're planning a 24 day 3500 mile drive around France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Italy and Monaco in August this year so I am hoping to enjoy some great drives and views on that journey.
Music? For driving, I love rock like Coldplay, the Verve, Keane, the Eagles, U2, Nickelback, Stereophonics, Travis, Red Hot Chilli Peppers. As for dance, I love Madonna's new album 'Confessions on a Dancefloor', Jamiroquai, Robbie Williams, Nelly Furtado's album 'Loose', Black Eyed Peas. Plus, I love modern Turkish music like Tarkan.
I'm listening to Nelly Furtado's Say It Right, All Good Things (Come To An End) and Promiscuous right now on iTunes while I'm surfing Rennteam...I have to say - she's really raised her game since last August when she released Maneater.... I mean - she used to be known for awful songs like "I'm Like A Bird"!!
I've burnt MP3s with about 170 songs on each one that I love listening to when I'm enjoying a good drive...
Mar 29, 2007 8:44:47 PM
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Re: Vote for your favourite 997 tyres
I was quite sure you'd listen to such kind of music. You now are also aware of what I'm listening to.
Plus: Arno Elias song, El Corazon, from the Buddha Bar Natural compilation. PM in case you wish to hear this magnificent lounge artwork, I can send it in mp3 or aac format.
Plus: Arno Elias song, El Corazon, from the Buddha Bar Natural compilation. PM in case you wish to hear this magnificent lounge artwork, I can send it in mp3 or aac format.
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