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    Re: New pics 599 Jean Todt

    this guy has really bad taste...thanks god he is not in charge of the design...

    Re: New pics 599 Jean Todt

    Have previously tended to assume US (esp LA/FL)/Asia have a duopoly on bad taste ....but given the awful pics/sightings of various cars in MC/Lond, have lost my faith in EU re: having better, more innovative design tastes/aesthetics.....

    Re: New pics 599 Jean Todt

    I like the look :-( sorry guys.
    A nice fcar for me. The 599 is the one I like the most in the current line. Except maybe this Enzo disguised P4.

    Re: New pics 599 Jean Todt

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    Rossi said:
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    racerx said:
    Ferrari has not had a stunning 12 since the TR. I suppose what some of you are saying is put some lipstick on that pig.



    I would go even further. Ferrari design as a whole lacks the inspiration and the cohesiveness of the earlier days. No matter at which of the newer cars you look, you will always find these design flaws. Last good designs were 328 and 355 at the V8-range and Testarossa/TR at the V12 as you said. But after that something got lost.



    It was the death of Enzo Rossi. That's pretty much what happened. For a while there after Enzo passed Ferrari was in turmoil & the reason you see such conservative designs is because of Montezemolo's conservative philosophy. But I think things will change over time. I just read an interview with him where he said Ferrari will always look to their past but also look to the future with new innovative design.

    I agree with you about the TR, that's my favorite Ferrari even though I love the 599 & both M cars.

    I disagree with you about the 360. Though I love the 355 the 360 was just as stunning IMO.

    Re: New pics 599 Jean Todt

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    Testarossa86 said:
    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Quote:
    racerx said:
    Ferrari has not had a stunning 12 since the TR. I suppose what some of you are saying is put some lipstick on that pig.



    I would go even further. Ferrari design as a whole lacks the inspiration and the cohesiveness of the earlier days. No matter at which of the newer cars you look, you will always find these design flaws. Last good designs were 328 and 355 at the V8-range and Testarossa/TR at the V12 as you said. But after that something got lost.



    It was the death of Enzo Rossi. That's pretty much what happened. For a while there after Enzo passed Ferrari was in turmoil & the reason you see such conservative designs is because of Montezemolo's conservative philosophy. But I think things will change over time. I just read an interview with him where he said Ferrari will always look to their past but also look to the future with new innovative design.

    I agree with you about the TR, that's my favorite Ferrari even though I love the 599 & both M cars.

    I disagree with you about the 360. Though I love the 355 the 360 was just as stunning IMO.



    I agree with most of what you said. Concerning the Modena, I also think it has a, let's say, good design, it's fluid, it's coherent, it flows from the front to the rear, everthing fits together well, if you know what I want to say. Recently we saw just too many new Ferrari which looked if like were designed from two different persons, one who was responsible for the front part, one for the rear. And then they put these non-fitting part together to one car. Enzo is such an example, but also the F430's rear and nose don't fit together IMO, also 599.

    That wasn't the case with the F360, I was only a little bit too disappointed, as I found the Modena just a little bit too elegant for a mid-engined Ferrari, lacking the aggressiveness the 355 delivered par excellence.

     
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