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KresoF1 said:
And, yes, the cost of having them in black, red or silver was previously around 5000Euro!! Criminal act if you ask me...
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KresoF1 said:
And, yes, the cost of having them in black, red or silver was previously around 5000Euro!! Criminal act if you ask me...
Absolutely!
Unvelievable. Here you got a Porsche-Exclusive-aluminium-carbon-leather-wood-department, where you can any thing you like for your Porsche, on the other hand they can't even offer different colours for the calipers.
BTW: black would have been my choice also.
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993S said:
An extra concern that I do have is the following, I change wheels a lot. I mean maybe 3 to 5 times a year. If I touch/hit the brake disk with a wheel I will most probably damage it my dealer told me. It seems you need special tools to change wheels. Is this correct ?
Sort-of correct.
The "special tools" are just 2 metal "pins" about 150 mm (6") long, maybe 14 mm in diameter, with a screw thread at one end of each. You screw them into two of the wheel bolt holes after first removing the bolts. This allows you to use the pins as guides to pull the wheel straight off the hub when changing wheels, to avoid the risk of the wheel inner rim falling onto the PCCB rotor and chipping it. The pins are part of the tool kit of cars supplied with PCCB brakes.
Mar 26, 2007 12:53:05 AM
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993S said:
An extra concern that I do have is the following, I change wheels a lot. I mean maybe 3 to 5 times a year. If I touch/hit the brake disk with a wheel I will most probably damage it my dealer told me. It seems you need special tools to change wheels. Is this correct ?
Sort-of correct.
The "special tools" are just 2 metal "pins" about 150 mm (6") long, maybe 14 mm in diameter, with a screw thread at one end of each. You screw them into two of the wheel bolt holes after first removing the bolts. This allows you to use the pins as guides to pull the wheel straight off the hub when changing wheels, to avoid the risk of the wheel inner rim falling onto the PCCB rotor and chipping it. The pins are part of the tool kit of cars supplied with PCCB brakes.
Just received my car yesterday and to my surprise no pins in the tool kit. Checked owners manual and it turns out you have to order them separate if you want to remove a wheel
Mar 26, 2007 9:08:42 AM
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Mar 27, 2007 8:17:26 PM
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Tboner said:
The big point of Unspung weight is damper and spring reaction times on race cars , the same is said of road car's , the less bounce weight ( unsprung Weight) the less work the suspension has to do to keep traction and correct tyre contact with the tarmac and to keep the car geometry correct , also as above response times to inputs are improved , not to mention 64 Kilos less weight on the car over all !! thats 2 big heavy suitcases ? worth another .1 or more sec's off you acc times across the range and less mass to stop If someone has there maths/physics hat on they could work out the mass to acc gains i guess ? but think i will leave that one to the porsche super cup guys or an F1 team !!. see last years test at the ring a PCCB II eqipped car as i remember it was 6 secs faster on the same rubber
Mar 27, 2007 9:19:41 PM
Mar 27, 2007 10:22:39 PM
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saunderscc said:
Perhaps someone could answer this: If I'm never going to a track, why would I care about PCCB's? In other words, aside from the pimp-ness factor, in ordinary day-to-day driving it seems like the PCCB's are a rather expensive upgrade for incremental performance that normal people are unlikely to ever notice.
In some ways it's like the disappointment voiced over 480 hp vs. 500 hp. Honestly, how big of a difference would that have made? It's not like this car is slow!
I'm not trolling here, I'm truly curious about the real world effects noticed by normal drivers and not weekend racers. I mean, I get why you'd order LSD and sport chrono--they're not really that expensive. But the PCCB's are in a different league comparatively speaking--they're basically equivalent to an entire carbon fiber treatment or a set of GT3 wheels.
Opinions appreciated.
Mar 27, 2007 10:54:51 PM
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hatchback said:
Can you actually feel the difference in the suspension itself on the street in normal to spirited driving? What would you recommend for street use only?
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Can you actually feel the difference in the suspension itself on the street in normal to spirited driving? What would you recommend for street use only?
Let's put aside "pedal feel" for a minute. Does anyone here really believe they can tell the difference between PCCB and Steel in a double blind test purely from the behavior of the suspension in regular or spirited street driving?
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atomic80 said:
I have the PCCB on mine and echo the comments of others who have nothing but accolades. However, in playing devil's advocate, I have to say that it's a bit unnerving in the wet especially after you've been driving for a bit because the initial "bite" can seem like it's not there. One gets into the habit of lightly "tapping" the brakes beforehand to "prep" the brakes as a result. However, in the "dry" these brakes REALLY are killer.
its like having self cleaning wheels and arch's' and no more acidic brake dust down the side of the car on that lovely polished paintwork that i am sure we all have! you really need to drive both cars with and without to understand what is being said here the irons are good at stopping you but the PCCB II is in a diff league and you will not be shelling out for pads and discs every 20k at Pounds1100 for the fronts, also my dealer service manager tells me before some un-educated comment is made, 50 + cars sold with PCCB since the launch of them, only 2 sets of pads on all these cars ever had to be done. One thing to remember with them is if you change wheels be very careful not to chip the disc's with the wheels you should use wheel service pins which are dirt cheap anyway.
Mar 28, 2007 6:52:03 PM
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