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MKSGR said:
Porsche, where is your competing product? Can't see any (997TT too slow - in the straight line as well as on the track)
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KresoF1 said:Quote:
MKSGR said:
Porsche, where is your competing product? Can't see any (997TT too slow - in the straight line as well as on the track)
Markus,
Gallardo SL will be very, very fast on both Klein Kurs Hockenheim and Nordschleife... Soon in Sport Auto..
But, answer to your question is in 997 turbo board-new GT2.
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...and 997 GT2 will be manual only. Yes, Gallardo SL is more usefull for all year driving. But, many people simply love turbo kick(or lag ) so, IMO new 997 GT2 will be awsome car for excellent driver(german-kenner!)... For average driver it could be as Nick said...potentially dangerous car.
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...and 997 GT2 will be manual only. Yes, Gallardo SL is more usefull for all year driving. But, many people simply love turbo kick(or lag ) so, IMO new 997 GT2 will be awsome car for excellent driver(german-kenner!)... For average driver it could be as Nick said...potentially dangerous car.
The problem with the GT2 is that Porsche has absolutely nothing to offer for those who think the 997TT lacks power but still want a safe car. Porsche has a very dangerous car with sufficient (not too much!) power - the GT2. And an underpowered (I am exagerating a bit here) but safe car (997TT).
This product strategy is really the worst I can imagine. Porsche ignores highest-margin customers who are willing to pay a premium for a state-of-the-art sports car. These customers need to buy their cars from other brands as Porsche cannot compete with the best any longer
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KresoF1 said:
...and 997 GT2 will be manual only. Yes, Gallardo SL is more usefull for all year driving. But, many people simply love turbo kick(or lag ) so, IMO new 997 GT2 will be awsome car for excellent driver(german-kenner!)... For average driver it could be as Nick said...potentially dangerous car.
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mv said:
Kreso,
some time ago you posted this :
Lamborghini Gallardo AMS (1/2007) 520hp, manual
0-100km/h: 3.9s
0-200km/h:12.6s
0-250km/h:21.1s
0-300km/h:40.6s
Max speed: 318km/h
So the Gallardo SL is actually not much faster than a standart MY07 manual, is it ? Of course, the Gallardo SL probably was all-new with just a few kilometers on it etc. But anyway...
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mv said:
Kreso,
some time ago you posted this :
Lamborghini Gallardo AMS (1/2007) 520hp, manual
0-100km/h: 3.9s
0-200km/h:12.6s
0-250km/h:21.1s
0-300km/h:40.6s
Max speed: 318km/h
So the Gallardo SL is actually not much faster than a standart MY07 manual, is it ? Of course, the Gallardo SL probably was all-new with just a few kilometers on it etc. But anyway...
With similar horsepower you can't expect too much improvement concerning pure acceleration times. The difference between the Super Leggera and the standard car (as well as between the forthcoming Light Pista and the F430 BTW) is when you drive the first on a track, where SL/LP belong. For daily road use the more comfortable standard version should be the better alternative.
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KresoF1 said:
...and 997 GT2 will be manual only. Yes, Gallardo SL is more usefull for all year driving. But, many people simply love turbo kick(or lag ) so, IMO new 997 GT2 will be awsome car for excellent driver(german-kenner!)... For average driver it could be as Nick said...potentially dangerous car.
So you think the new GT2 will be again a "widowmaker"?
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MKSGR said:
Porsche, where is your competing product? Can't see any (997TT too slow - in the straight line as well as on the track)
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KresoF1 said:
...and 997 GT2 will be manual only. Yes, Gallardo SL is more usefull for all year driving. But, many people simply love turbo kick(or lag ) so, IMO new 997 GT2 will be awsome car for excellent driver(german-kenner!)... For average driver it could be as Nick said...potentially dangerous car.
So you think the new GT2 will be again a "widowmaker"?
Potentially YES. If it will be without PSM then it is the car for "Kenner", and you know what I mean here...
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Duncan said:
Gallardo SE - 2005
Test in sport auto 11/2005
Gewicht 1640 kg
Nordschleife 7.56,65 min (driver Tom Kristensen)
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.12,2 min
Ferrari F430 F1 Coupé
Test in sport auto 01/2006
Gewicht 1493 kg
Nordschleife 7.55 min
Hockenheim, kleiner Kurs 1.12,7 min
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MKSGR said:
Porsche, where is your competing product? Can't see any (997TT too slow - in the straight line as well as on the track)
If I'm not mistaken the 997tt was faster in a straight line, 0-200 in 12.2 or so. I would like to see if the G could match the 7:42 time on the ring.