Jan 13, 2007 12:14:58 PM
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- Reply to: Neil Schneider
Re: Not that big a deal
Good luck!
Jan 13, 2007 12:14:58 PM
Jan 13, 2007 8:07:40 PM
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nberry said:
Sorry I failed to mention that when I am asked what type of lawyer I am my response is always "a lousy one". I just try to make a modest living hoping a silk stocking law firm (which employs you) does not beat me up too much.
Also, am afraid to go into a coutroom because when I do I always lose. My case is a sad one so take pity on me.
Maybe in my next life I can be like you.
Jan 13, 2007 8:07:58 PM
Jan 13, 2007 8:08:09 PM
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nberry said:
... bend over and grab your ankles ...
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nberry said:
... I do enjoy your posts and do not want to alienate you.
Jan 13, 2007 8:26:01 PM
Jan 14, 2007 1:21:22 AM
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frayed said:
... Leave the arrogant extortionist-based practice to those with the disposition ...
frayed, I made this decision many years ago. It just isn't in my nature to put myself before my client's interests (by exaggerating his chances to secure his retainer). Fleecing clients in this fashion is the modus operandi of cowboys and charlatans. I'm relieved to say that I'm not cut from the same cloth as Nick.
Jan 14, 2007 1:23:03 AM
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Jan 14, 2007 3:07:09 AM
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JimFlat6 said:
As for your tome to Cambridge, you omitted its reputation for graduates who went on to become Traitors and its healthy number of graduates who became scandal ridden politicians and noted charlatans in the City. So I guess its all in how you measure prestige.
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frayed said:
blah blah blah.
y'all need to have a drink and be thankful for our good fortunes to be able to drive such cars and have the luxury to debate senseless stuff on the web.
uncork your favorite red, spend an afternoon preparing some osso bucco, eat, drink, get some loving, wake up and drive.
Jan 14, 2007 4:33:09 AM
Jan 14, 2007 4:43:07 PM
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adrift said:
I don't think they even put serial numbers on engines any more do they (that match the cars VIN)?
Jan 14, 2007 6:58:39 PM
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jerrygee said:
I don't want to get into the fray but speaking from 30 years experience as an owner/operator of a large BMW franchise I think Porsche930S would have better luck getting his car replaced if he involved the selling dealer. Unlike buying a sweater at Nordstrom's, automobile dealerships are independently owned and operated (even dealerships owned by publicly traded corporations that own multiple stores will compete against each other) and the servicing dealer has no vested interest in the sale of a car sold at another dealer.
If I were presented with a similar situation (and I was on a number of occasions) where a car that I sold had a problem such as his, to keep the customer happy I would buy the car back by refunding all monies (all I would be out would be license fees and salesman commission, I could recoup the state sales tax). Being the car has very low miles, is a current model year and a new model to boot I would not have a problem fixing the car and then reselling it and sell Porsche930S another new car. I would try to get the replacement car from the factory outside my normal allocation (using customer good will as reason for deserving an "extra" car) but if that failed I would sell one out of my normal allocation. I took care of customers that bought their cars from me.
However, if he were in my shop with a car from another dealer I would only do what BMW was willing to do and nothing more. I don't know what the circumstances are to why he didn't purchase for the servicing dealer but dealers take it personally when people don't buy cars from them but then can find them for warranty work, especially when the ink isn't even dry on the original sales contract at a competing dealer. In other words I would not be willing to go to bat for him.
Just my two cents.
Jan 15, 2007 12:03:56 AM
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Silver Bullet said:Quote:
jerrygee said:
I don't want to get into the fray but speaking from 30 years experience as an owner/operator of a large BMW franchise I think Porsche930S would have better luck getting his car replaced if he involved the selling dealer. Unlike buying a sweater at Nordstrom's, automobile dealerships are independently owned and operated (even dealerships owned by publicly traded corporations that own multiple stores will compete against each other) and the servicing dealer has no vested interest in the sale of a car sold at another dealer.
If I were presented with a similar situation (and I was on a number of occasions) where a car that I sold had a problem such as his, to keep the customer happy I would buy the car back by refunding all monies (all I would be out would be license fees and salesman commission, I could recoup the state sales tax). Being the car has very low miles, is a current model year and a new model to boot I would not have a problem fixing the car and then reselling it and sell Porsche930S another new car. I would try to get the replacement car from the factory outside my normal allocation (using customer good will as reason for deserving an "extra" car) but if that failed I would sell one out of my normal allocation. I took care of customers that bought their cars from me.
However, if he were in my shop with a car from another dealer I would only do what BMW was willing to do and nothing more. I don't know what the circumstances are to why he didn't purchase for the servicing dealer but dealers take it personally when people don't buy cars from them but then can find them for warranty work, especially when the ink isn't even dry on the original sales contract at a competing dealer. In other words I would not be willing to go to bat for him.
Just my two cents.
Now THAT makes a lot of sense. Why isn't 930S going back to the selling dealer if a nw car is what he's after? Why was the T4S supposed to be an investment and then that statement retracted? (because an "investment" makes an engine replacement problematic?) This is just weird, and I'm not sure I'm much interested anymore . . . I feel like my chain is being pulled (by more than just Nick!)
Jan 15, 2007 12:54:28 AM
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frayed said:
... Leave the arrogant extortionist-based practice to those with the disposition ...
frayed, I made this decision many years ago. It just isn't in my nature to put myself before my client's interests (by exaggerating his chances to secure his retainer). Fleecing clients in this fashion is the modus operandi of cowboys and charlatans. I'm relieved to say that I'm not cut from the same cloth as Nick.
You did state that, not I. Your attempt to attribute it to me is worthless and speaks volumes.
... does that petard feel good as hoisted here? That was your statement, your inference, your indirect slur. ...
... I did see a very foul attack on Nick's professional ethics and then your attempt to attribute that attack to me. I suggest that you not compound errors.
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JimFlat6 said:
As for your tome to Cambridge, you omitted its reputation for graduates who went on to become Traitors and its healthy number of graduates who became scandal ridden politicians and noted charlatans in the City. So I guess its all in how you measure prestige.
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JimFlat6 said:
Maybe National Health can provide you with some wings or some fashionable eyeware?
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