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    Jan 7, 2007 1:43:49 PM

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    special GT3

    Found this rather special GT3 on a dutch carspotting website. I wonder what kind of rear wing this is. Imo it looks much better than the original wing, but I cannot believe it generates the same downforce or has the same aerodynamic charecteristics as the original. Anyone know what type or make it is?

    Jan 7, 2007 1:44:59 PM

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    Jan 7, 2007 1:45:35 PM

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    Jan 7, 2007 1:46:08 PM

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    Jan 7, 2007 1:46:32 PM

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    Jan 7, 2007 2:20:42 PM

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    Re: special GT3

    I don't think this car is a GT3.

    Jan 7, 2007 2:25:52 PM

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    I'd like to know where to get a rear spoiler like that as well. IMO, it looks much better than the GT3 one and is probably one of the best looking ones I've seen.

    Jan 7, 2007 2:28:12 PM

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    Re: special GT3

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    I don't think this car is a GT3.



    Well, it even has got GT3 dials...

    Jan 7, 2007 2:34:00 PM

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    Yep,,and GT3 front lid and door entry kick plate ,, you would have to be one sad bunny to go that far with mod's...

    Jan 7, 2007 2:36:10 PM

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    I don't think this car is a GT3.



    What gives it away?

    Jan 7, 2007 3:16:44 PM

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    Yep,,and GT3 front lid and door entry kick plate ,, you would have to be one sad bunny to go that far with mod's...



    Alcantra steering wheel too . . .

    My first thought was that it was a C2 with Sport Wheels and the Aerokit with a fake GT3 badge, but the ctr rear exhaust and all the other details already mentioned lead me to believe that it is the real thing.

    Having said that, I don't like it. Those are my least favorite 911 wheels, and the GT3 wheels are my favorite, so that remains a choice I'll never understand. Plus, the GT3 rear spoiler has grown on me. The only thing I'd replace it with is the GT3 RS spoiler which is lighter and creates more downforce.

    Plus I hate black wheels.

    But, to each his/her own!

    Jan 7, 2007 3:21:00 PM

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    Very stealth. I like it. Did you guys notice the cross stitch pattern on the seats?

    Jan 7, 2007 3:44:55 PM

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    Re: special GT3

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    Quote:
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    I don't think this car is a GT3.



    What gives it away?



    Different wheels, Different front bumper, rear spoiler.
    But You are right about dials; I missed that.
    Maybe A real GT3 with changed body parts including the front end grills.

    Jan 7, 2007 3:50:44 PM

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    I'd like to know where to get a rear spoiler like that as well. IMO, it looks much better than the GT3 one and is probably one of the best looking ones I've seen.



    I like the rear spoiler, too.

    Jan 7, 2007 4:02:49 PM

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    Quote:
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    I'd like to know where to get a rear spoiler like that as well. IMO, it looks much better than the GT3 one and is probably one of the best looking ones I've seen.



    I like the rear spoiler, too.



    I like it a lot!

    I've never been a friend of the GT3's "ass antlers".

    Jan 7, 2007 4:18:32 PM

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    Everything to me let me know that it is a GT3 but i'm not convinced. Today copy are really easy to make. I know a guy around here did a perfect copy of Audi RS4. Look everything the same from outside but engine part betrayed the car and the guy.

    Jan 7, 2007 4:19:49 PM

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    You have to be a strange fella to remove stock GT3 wheels and run those skinnier and ugly wheels, add cross stitching to the seats, replace the rear spoiler with a ducktail and screw up handling balance.

    Jan 7, 2007 4:46:11 PM

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    Looks like he took a hacksaw to the upper part of the stock wing and left the base!

    Jan 7, 2007 4:53:10 PM

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    Yep,,and GT3 front lid and door entry kick plate ,, you would have to be one sad bunny to go that far with mod's...


    It's a GT3 imo...no PCM in front center console either, they would've had to have ripped out the PCM and replaced. Bet that's a $5K job alone!
    I think all regular non-GT3 997's are stuck with PCM except Japan + Hong Kong markets, or am I wrong on that?

    Tailpipes are the real deal... owner just has eccentric taste in wheels & wing. The partial-amputee rear wing doesn't look bad at all, although it reminds me of a bizarre cross btwn '73 911 RS ducktail and 996 Twin Turbo wing. But as frayed said, if it messes up the car's dynamics at speed I wouldn't do it either.

    Jan 7, 2007 5:05:03 PM

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    "het was weer een hele saaie regenachtige dag in Noordwijk...we komen het terrein van Hotels van Oranje op staat daar een vage 997 GT3 wij pics maken..komt even later de eigenaar, david vraagt even of we een filmpje mogen maken, en dat mocht, toen vroeg david of het nou wel een GT3 was en dat was het hij is aangepast voor op het circuit andere spoiler, interieur, race remklauwen, racegaas enz. toen trok hij hem nog lekker open voor een filmpje, helemaal top !!!"

    Dutch Rennteamers, please shed some light

    Jan 7, 2007 6:31:09 PM

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    "It's a GT3 imo...no PCM in front center console either, they would've had to have ripped out the PCM and replaced. Bet that's a $5K job alone!"

    That's the clincher right there.

    Jan 7, 2007 7:03:00 PM

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    Jan 7, 2007 9:54:42 PM

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    I like the stitching, though I don't think I'd spend money to have it done.

    If he goes on fast tracks, he may find some interesting vehicle dynamics at high speed. Top speed at my local track coming off the banking is 150+ MPH; I sure wouldn't mess with the aero. Probably fine around town though.

    Jan 7, 2007 11:47:55 PM

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    If he goes on fast tracks, he may find some interesting vehicle dynamics at high speed. Top speed at my local track coming off the banking is 150+ MPH; I sure wouldn't mess with the aero. Probably fine around town though.



    +1 on the wing.

    Top speed at my local track (Nordschleife) for Walter in a GT3 is about 283 kph. Top speed on autobahns is 310 kph. Why mess with safety and downforce at speed?

    Jan 9, 2007 12:49:58 AM

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    Here's the interior...

    Photoshopped to open up the shadows.

    Jan 9, 2007 12:35:02 PM

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    "het was weer een hele saaie regenachtige dag in Noordwijk...we komen het terrein van Hotels van Oranje op staat daar een vage 997 GT3 wij pics maken..komt even later de eigenaar, david vraagt even of we een filmpje mogen maken, en dat mocht, toen vroeg david of het nou wel een GT3 was en dat was het hij is aangepast voor op het circuit andere spoiler, interieur, race remklauwen, racegaas enz. toen trok hij hem nog lekker open voor een filmpje, helemaal top !!!"

    Dutch Rennteamers, please shed some light



    They asked the owner if it was a GT3. He said it was and that there had been made some adjustments for the track (different spoiler, interior, race calipers).

    Makes little sense...

    Jan 9, 2007 1:17:19 PM

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    Its a gt3!!!!

    Watch this video !!, and listen to the sound !

    video

    Jan 9, 2007 2:18:07 PM

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    It sounds very nice and I love the wing.

    Jan 9, 2007 3:58:06 PM

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    Really nice GT3!!!

    Jan 9, 2007 5:59:18 PM

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    Re: special GT3

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    Top speed at my local track (Nordschleife) for Walter in a GT3 is about 283 kph. Top speed on autobahns is 310 kph. Why mess with safety and downforce at speed?



    Even at much lower speeds, this wing modification is dangerous (I won't use the word "STUPID" since I don't want to offend the owner ) and even counter-effective.
    At speeds over 120-130 kph, the GT3 wing already has a substantial influence on aerodynamics.

    I can't see how the owner could have "compensated" the loss of rear downforce with the front spoiler/lip, I highly doubt it. My assumption is: this GT3 is a "showcar" only, nobody would seriously modify a GT3 this way, not a experienced track driver anyway.
     
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