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Porsche-Jeck said:
ROFL 
I guess your rubber chicken will be very busy 
If you want PASM/-20mm, Xenon, PCM the S is a non-brainer IMO. The difference in 0-60 times is of academic value only, but irrelevant in real life, unless you are willing to replace your clutch every other 2,000 miles or so. Torque/in-gear-acceleration and - most important - the feeling how the engine delivers the power should be the decisive factors in the engine department.
Exactly, well put. It's not what the car accomplishes on a stopwatch, it's how the car feels and responds to your inputs. More muscle enhances the responsiveness at ANY speed, and the more speed you build, and the less advantage the gearing provides, the more the increased h.p. and torque factors in... However, if one must rely on quantitative data to compare two particular vehicles, at least choose a measurement with paramaters that are wide-enough to give you a decent picture/comparison. Yes, 90% of the time we're all probably "stuck" plodding around at speeds of 60mph or less. But using that unfortunate reality as a basis to use the 0-60mph sprint as your measuring stick is faulty logic. On paper, a few tenths 0-60 doesn't seem to be anything much at all. But seat-of-pants, the horsepower and torque required to pull a few tenths advantage in that short of a sprint is actually quite noteworthy and discernable to a performance oriented driver who's desiring all the punch he can get. In the world of drag racing, a half second in the quarter mile is HUGE, and definitely something I can easily feel feathering a throttle in traffic. You give me or take away 30 h.p., and believe me, I'll know it... Heck, I feel the difference in how my car accelerates when it's just a little bit humid outside.
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997man saidI used the 0-60 time because most people who drive these cars do not stay above 80 or 90 mph very long for daily driving and probably are in the 40-60 mph range more often than not .
By this logic, any current 911 model is a rather ridiculous car to own. If we made our purchase decisions based on the urban-crawl and government speed limits, we would all be far better served driving Toyota Echos.
C'mon now, you don't buy a 911 for the 80-90% of the time your hemmed-up in the human condition.... you buy such that you're always equipped for the remaining 10-20% of the time, those glorious country screams, those random flashes of empty road ahead or wide-open freeway onramp.. Your 911 isn't for the majority of the time, so take 0-60 and leave it for the cars it better applies to... commuter cars. Your 911 is one of the world's finest tools for being able to comfortably navigate the urban jungle, and then, at a moments notice, be ready to leap into fun and rewarding action when traffic clears, or you get off the beaten path, or you simply want to drive spiritedly and knife though the obstacles after a crappy day at work. As such a tool, the more power, the more handling, the more everything, so much the better. The only balance/compromise is keeping it liveable during the 80-90% of the time that you're hemmed-in, or not in an appropriate/safe setting.
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997man saidHis car is scary fast, too fast for a non-track car.
Too fast?? What's that? Scary fast = alot of fun, unless you're scared of course...
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997man said
As for your comment of reaching through the screen and smacking someone, you obviously have a big mental problem !
Oh brother... Is this going to be a 2-rubber-chicken job??
After all, it is the season of good will to all men. (Oh God, now I've alienated the feminists and political correctness freaks out there! 
