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Apr 26, 2018 1:43:51 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: lexs4

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

lexs4:
throt:
RC:
SportCarGroup:
3 days old car

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Tracking a new car isn't a good idea because it takes time to get used to it...

Sad.

Christian,

Its just some guys refuse to stay within their capabilities limits. You know, they get the car and believe they've become ""bertie big bollocks"" overnight. Plus, these type have their friend besides them and feel the peer pressure to go faster.

As you say, learn the car first....

In this case the word is there was oil on the track at the exit of a corner from another vehicle. So not much this guy could do. I give him props for being out there driving the car vs the majority of folks driving around Monaco at 5mph trying to show off or flip these for insane amounts.

Maybe that's true, maybe it's not. It's always interesting to see how folks like to jump to conclusions and judge based on a single photo with zero context...ah the internet.

Oil?, maybe, maybe not. Main thing, he is okay and its just a car.

Yep, your car so choose to do whatever you want. Tracking is a risk and all trackers know that Smiley .

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Apr 26, 2018 1:54:35 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: throt

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Exactly. When you go to the track you need to be ready to loose the entire value of the car, insurance or not...

I can imagine that even with insurance, there can always be some sort of loophole or lawsuit where they try to get away from paying...

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Apr 26, 2018 2:32:34 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Much better to see the GT2RS in that shape on a proper track than getting nailed on the street by a Prius or a Tesla.

Proper battle scars as they say, instead of a razor cut while shaving.

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Apr 26, 2018 2:39:23 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21148, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Whoopsy:
Much better to see the GT2RS in that shape on a proper track than getting nailed on the street by a Prius or a Tesla.

Proper battle scars as they say, instead of a razor cut while shaving.

I don't know, taking a Prius out of circulation is a pretty good thing too indecision

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Apr 26, 2018 2:40:51 PM

crayphile: Rennteam Pro; Loc: England , United Kingdom; Posts: 2861, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2004; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Carlos from Spain:
I don't know, taking a Prius out of circulation is a pretty good thing too

Smiley .

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Apr 26, 2018 2:50:36 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Carlos from Spain:
Whoopsy:
Much better to see the GT2RS in that shape on a proper track than getting nailed on the street by a Prius or a Tesla.

Proper battle scars as they say, instead of a razor cut while shaving.

I don't know, taking a Prius out of circulation is a pretty good thing too

Not at the expense of a Porsche! I mean, I won't shed a tear if a Prius nailed a Kia, Hyundai, Seat, Peugeot, Citroen, Lada, etc.

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Apr 26, 2018 2:54:17 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Carlos from Spain:
Whoopsy:
Much better to see the GT2RS in that shape on a proper track than getting nailed on the street by a Prius or a Tesla.

Proper battle scars as they say, instead of a razor cut while shaving.

I don't know, taking a Prius out of circulation is a pretty good thing too

Smiley Smiley

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Apr 26, 2018 4:21:20 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Call me an idiot.

I just turned down the offer to drive a GT2RS for a Spyder Circle event next month, and instead sticking to using my newly delivered Turbo S Exclusive.

Mitigating excuses will be the drive is not exciting enough, basically from Stuttgart to Zuffenhausen, then to Weissach. Road trips in the Black Forest and also visiting the Bugatti factory.

Had the trip consists of Alpine passes, then I would surely say yes.

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Apr 26, 2018 4:33:44 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: Whoopsy

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He said Bugatti... smiley angry

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Apr 26, 2018 4:48:40 PM

Topspeed: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 2992, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 14, 2014; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbqkZ7IDSqo

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Apr 26, 2018 5:31:41 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: SciFrog

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

SciFrog:
He said Bugatti...

Part of the VAG umbrella!

Didn't say I am getting one

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Apr 26, 2018 6:52:15 PM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: Topspeed

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Topspeed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbqkZ7IDSqo

My god!!! Maybe next time they can start building the wing, and then try to fir a car under it?!?

on a mire serious note... next gen rsr or so?

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Apr 26, 2018 7:59:54 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8842, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Whoopsy:
SciFrog:
He said Bugatti...

Part of the VAG umbrella!

Didn't say I am getting one

Smiley

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Apr 27, 2018 1:37:25 AM

lexs4: Senior; Loc: KY , United States; Posts: 570, Gallery; Registered on: May 17, 2005; Reply to: Joost

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

When it’s braking it sounded a bit like the old gt3 r hybrid with its flywheel spooling up? Testing a hybrid system, or electric turbo anti lag system. Didn’t sound like a racing gearbox whine.

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Apr 27, 2018 5:18:23 AM

Spyderidol: Rennteam Master; Loc: Mozambique; Posts: 5807, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 25, 2007; Reply to: Joost

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Joost:
Topspeed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbqkZ7IDSqo

My god!!! Maybe next time they can start building the wing, and then try to fir a car under it?!?

on a mire serious note... next gen rsr or so?

I dont think so. RSR now is mid-engined.

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Apr 27, 2018 6:28:25 AM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Spyderidol

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

GT2RS Clubsport and 🤩

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Apr 27, 2018 6:41:23 AM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: the-missile

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

After thinking and digging for a while, I believe that's a car that Walliser was talking about when they introduced the GT34CS a couple years ago. A track day special. He talked about finding an untapped market when they received more than expected orders for the GT4CS.

It is not built to any racing standard, but a car that customers will keep at tracks for thrashing, for fun.

A production body, with race spec roll cage and equipments, but with production parts. Low maintenance track special. I suspect it will have the regular PDK-S, Turbo S engine, not he GT2 RS engine.

Perhaps 2700lbs, GT4CS was at 2800lbs, Cup car at 2600lbs. 580HP from the Turbo S engine is plenty enough. With GT3RS/GT2RS from fenders, no 100hrs engine rebuild nor 60 hrs transmission rebuilds. All along the line of the GT4CS.

Cheap for Porsche to built, cheap for customers to run.

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Apr 27, 2018 7:10:27 AM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: Whoopsy

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what I don't get is why Porsche doesn't have active Aero on the GT models......

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Apr 27, 2018 8:47:41 AM

Enzo II: Veteran; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 1248, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: BjoernB

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Interesting model. But Cayman GT4 CS was on the 100k range. This thing will be close to ...300?

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Apr 27, 2018 9:31:27 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: BjoernB

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

BjoernB:
what I don't get is why Porsche doesn't have active Aero on the GT models......

Just wait...this is Lambo's show right now. Smiley Smiley

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Apr 27, 2018 11:03:52 AM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: Spyderidol

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Spyderidol:
Joost:
on a mire serious note... next gen rsr or so?

I dont think so. RSR now is mid-engined.

...and called GT4 Smiley

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Apr 27, 2018 12:55:40 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Whoopsy:
After thinking and digging for a while, I believe that's a car that Walliser was talking about when they introduced the GT34CS a couple years ago. A track day special. He talked about finding an untapped market when they received more than expected orders for the GT4CS.

It is not built to any racing standard, but a car that customers will keep at tracks for thrashing, for fun.

A production body, with race spec roll cage and equipments, but with production parts. Low maintenance track special. I suspect it will have the regular PDK-S, Turbo S engine, not he GT2 RS engine.

Perhaps 2700lbs, GT4CS was at 2800lbs, Cup car at 2600lbs. 580HP from the Turbo S engine is plenty enough. With GT3RS/GT2RS from fenders, no 100hrs engine rebuild nor 60 hrs transmission rebuilds. All along the line of the GT4CS.

Cheap for Porsche to built, cheap for customers to run.

GT4CS was allocated to racing team or super VIP.

Hope they don't do the same mistake here. Smiley

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Apr 27, 2018 3:07:06 PM

AP911: Senior; Loc: UAE , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 566, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 28, 2017; Reply to: BjoernB

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

BjoernB:
what I don't get is why Porsche doesn't have active Aero on the GT models......

The Touring does Smiley

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Apr 27, 2018 3:38:30 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: the-missile

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

the-missile:
Whoopsy:
After thinking and digging for a while, I believe that's a car that Walliser was talking about when they introduced the GT34CS a couple years ago. A track day special. He talked about finding an untapped market when they received more than expected orders for the GT4CS.

It is not built to any racing standard, but a car that customers will keep at tracks for thrashing, for fun.

A production body, with race spec roll cage and equipments, but with production parts. Low maintenance track special. I suspect it will have the regular PDK-S, Turbo S engine, not he GT2 RS engine.

Perhaps 2700lbs, GT4CS was at 2800lbs, Cup car at 2600lbs. 580HP from the Turbo S engine is plenty enough. With GT3RS/GT2RS from fenders, no 100hrs engine rebuild nor 60 hrs transmission rebuilds. All along the line of the GT4CS.

Cheap for Porsche to built, cheap for customers to run.

GT4CS was allocated to racing team or super VIP.

Hope they don't do the same mistake here.

At first they wanted customers to race the car, hence the initial batch was only sold to race teams. But half way through the production cycle anyone can buy one, just needed to ask the right person.

Most dealers in the world don't even know who to contact or how to order one. DIdn't help that PAG never step in to help out.

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Apr 27, 2018 3:42:12 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: Enzo II

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Enzo II:
Interesting model. But Cayman GT4 CS was on the 100k range. This thing will be close to ...300?

GT4CS was around US$220k with the MR package. Base one was US$180k A Cup car was at almost US$300k.

If this is indeed a track special, expect it to be round US$250k.

Not much factory options on race cars, in the GT4CS it is mostly chasing whether to have air-con, and the sizeof the gas tank, and build in air jacks and racing seats, either Recaro or OMP.

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Apr 27, 2018 9:11:39 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017)

Whoopsy, if I tell you like GT2RS 4.0L and then angry

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Apr 27, 2018 10:21:50 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: the-missile

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If that is indeed a customer track car, it won't have the GT2RS engine for sure! It would be a massacre of Porsche customers on track, they will drop like flies left an right.

The target audience are not pros, 700HP in a 2700lb car is just begging for trouble with slicks. On street tires the limits are lower and safer, with slicks the drivers will be going into corners a lot faster and slicks don't have gradual breakaways like street tires. The 3.8L Turbo or even Turbo S engine will be plenty fast enough.

A 4.0L from the GT3RS could work also, but those engines are not in big supply.

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Apr 28, 2018 7:01:02 AM

DuckieRS: Senior; Loc: Belgium , Belgium; Posts: 786, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 15, 2007; Reply to: Whoopsy

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Car was mentioned in Spa last week(end). 150 pieces. Did not ask about engine.

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Apr 28, 2018 8:04:59 AM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3484, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: DuckieRS

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GT2RS is 3.8L blush , there is a GT2RS 4.0L in the pipe and it looks like it will be that monster. angry

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Apr 28, 2018 11:41:29 AM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: the-missile

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the-missile:
GT2RS is 3.8L , there is a GT2RS 4.0L in the pipe and it looks like it will be that monster.

That must be the non-street legal version, though. I.e. not for road use.

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