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Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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RC said:
Aston Martin builds beautiful cars and the quality seems to have never been better than now.
BUT: performance sucks in my opinion. They're too heavy and not sporty enough.
Starting with next year, when the winter is over, we'll have the possibility to testdrive a few Aston Martin models and with some luck, we may be even testdriving a DBS as soon as it is going to be available officially.
I'm very curious to experience how these cars drive but judging by the test results in various magazines, I'm not impressed...yet.
Yeah, performance sucks so much in the AMV8 that he did in the Ring 8:03mins lap against the lap of the 997 S with ceramic brakes option: 8:05....Strange, don't you think?
Don't forget that the AM V8 had semi-slicks on it. Anyway the V8 Vantage is heavier than a 997! So the ring performance is still impressive. But i think some guys underestimate this car. A big problem was a comparison between a 997s and a early V8 Vantage in a german car mag last year. The 997 won clearly. But after my ride i can't understand that summary.
The 997 S was better than the Aston V8 in this german test probably because the germans who made the test appeled(?) more to the Porsche because it is GERMAN!
Yup, just like when the British Top Gear team ran the AM against the clock and against a 997S and BMW M6 along the same same stretch of road on the Isle of Man, all driven by the Stig, their national preferences caused them to allow the 997S to win.
Um, no! That doesn't quite sound right, does it?
Yeah...bloody germans and their bloody cars...
Sorry rennteam!
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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fritz said:Quote:
AM V8 said:Quote:
KF said:Quote:
AM V8 said:Quote:
RC said:
Aston Martin builds beautiful cars and the quality seems to have never been better than now.
BUT: performance sucks in my opinion. They're too heavy and not sporty enough.
Starting with next year, when the winter is over, we'll have the possibility to testdrive a few Aston Martin models and with some luck, we may be even testdriving a DBS as soon as it is going to be available officially.
I'm very curious to experience how these cars drive but judging by the test results in various magazines, I'm not impressed...yet.
Yeah, performance sucks so much in the AMV8 that he did in the Ring 8:03mins lap against the lap of the 997 S with ceramic brakes option: 8:05....Strange, don't you think?
Don't forget that the AM V8 had semi-slicks on it. Anyway the V8 Vantage is heavier than a 997! So the ring performance is still impressive. But i think some guys underestimate this car. A big problem was a comparison between a 997s and a early V8 Vantage in a german car mag last year. The 997 won clearly. But after my ride i can't understand that summary.
The 997 S was better than the Aston V8 in this german test probably because the germans who made the test appeled(?) more to the Porsche because it is GERMAN!
Yup, just like when the British Top Gear team ran the AM against the clock and against a 997S and BMW M6 along the same same stretch of road on the Isle of Man, all driven by the Stig, their national preferences caused them to allow the 997S to win.
Um, no! That doesn't quite sound right, does it?
Strange...Sport Auto did the same...the Aston was better than the Carrera S in the Supertest in the Ring...with their national conditions and all that stuff...
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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Turbo Al said:
Definitely a wife-mobile.
Now of course if they would supercharge it or, even better, turbocharge it, wind up the suspension, with a 6-speed manual, then it could be fun.
Oh. I see you did a ride,too
The 6-speed-manual is series. The clutch is much stronger than in a 911. If you're wife is not a fitness trainer, it will be a hard job to drive a AM. Please tell me you ever drove a AM... 
By the way, i see a lot of women driving 911 Cabriolets.
I'm also german 
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Turbo Al said:
Definitely a wife-mobile.
Now of course if they would supercharge it or, even better, turbocharge it, wind up the suspension, with a 6-speed manual, then it could be fun.
Oh. I see you did a ride,too
By the way, i see a lot of women driving 911 Cabriolets.
I've driven only the DB9. I was only trying to emphasize that the car's looks trump its performance; of course, for me, even a 911TurboS stock is underpowered.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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MKW said:
Aston Martin says typical buyer owns 7 cars , including a Porsche or Ferrari, so I doubt this car's intended buyer suffers any loss of sleep when told " my M3 is as fast as your car "
Under these circumstances, they might also be more inclined to sleep peacefully despite owning a car with a dubious reputation for reliability.
They can always be fairly sure of one of their 7 cars starting and running, so that they can make it to the office or to the golf club.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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Turbo Al said:
even a 911TurboS stock is underpowered.
Okay. Our GT2 runs better than an AM V8 and my Gt3 also. But if you're thinking about a 997 S Cab you can go for an AM V8 Vantage Roadster.
An Aston Martin is not just a sportscar, it's a composition of sportscar and luxury.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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KF said:
@Fritz: What i want to explain, was that the difference in summary of points was to big.
@KF: I had no dispute with the point of view you expressed.
Apart, maybe, from thinking that it is a mistake to expect any media reports - including car tests - to be balanced and rational!
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
Ok here is my theory.
If i am invited somewhere very elite , i will wear my Ermenegildo Zegna suits and jump my Aston Martin to go there.
But if i am having my weekend fun (including all thing dinner,cinema,rolling,girlfriend,pub anything you do) i will wear my nice sports clothes and jump my Carrera.
for me thats the difference of AM and Porsche. For performance i will go any Porsche, for passion and elegance i will go Aston.
If i am invited somewhere very elite , i will wear my Ermenegildo Zegna suits and jump my Aston Martin to go there.
But if i am having my weekend fun (including all thing dinner,cinema,rolling,girlfriend,pub anything you do) i will wear my nice sports clothes and jump my Carrera.
for me thats the difference of AM and Porsche. For performance i will go any Porsche, for passion and elegance i will go Aston.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
I agree for the DB9 and Vanquish. But not for the V8. This car is sporty. And i bet that you can catch more girls with a V8 Roadster as with a 997 Convertible.
Next point is that the AM has one big advantage. Exclusivity. Not everybody drives Aston Martin and that's IMO a good thing. So if you want an eyecatcher you have to go for an AM or a Ferrari.
The 911 is just sport. Not elegance. The AM V8 is both.
Next point is that the AM has one big advantage. Exclusivity. Not everybody drives Aston Martin and that's IMO a good thing. So if you want an eyecatcher you have to go for an AM or a Ferrari.
The 911 is just sport. Not elegance. The AM V8 is both.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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I agree for the DB9 and Vanquish. But not for the V8. This car is sporty. And i bet that you can catch more girls with a V8 Roadster as with a 997 Convertible.
Next point is that the AM has one big advantage. Exclusivity. Not everybody drives Aston Martin and that's IMO a good thing. So if you want an eyecatcher you have to go for an AM or a Ferrari.
The 911 is just sport. Not elegance. The AM V8 is both.
What I don't understand is why Aston can't do what Ferrari did with the 599. Despite the car being heavy it's a rocket on wheels and supposedly handles like a dream. Once they give their cars a proper performance specification and fix those pesky transmission problems, they will be hotter than Ferrari.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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KF said:
I agree for the DB9 and Vanquish. But not for the V8. This car is sporty. And i bet that you can catch more girls with a V8 Roadster as with a 997 Convertible.
Next point is that the AM has one big advantage. Exclusivity. Not everybody drives Aston Martin and that's IMO a good thing. So if you want an eyecatcher you have to go for an AM or a Ferrari.
The 911 is just sport. Not elegance. The AM V8 is both.
What I don't understand is why Aston can't do what Ferrari did with the 599. Despite the car being heavy it's a rocket on wheels and supposedly handles like a dream. Once they give their cars a proper performance specification and fix those pesky transmission problems, they will be hotter than Ferrari.
Crash because its under Ford.
Check Ford company sportscars (except Ford GT it is different thing).
Jaguar XK and XKR --- slower than a cayman S and Carrera S
Range Rover Supercharged---> i would prefer Cayenne S for performance
Volvo S60R---> is it real 300hp???
Aston v8 Vantage- ---> it is much better looking than Carrera S but Carrera is faster.
Vanquish S---> 60sec to 300kmh????? I would drive 550 maranello
IMO all ford company engines power is %20-25 less when compared to its rivals
Ha Astons are elite and best looking and i love them thats different than performance of course
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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VGA18 said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
KF said:
I agree for the DB9 and Vanquish. But not for the V8. This car is sporty. And i bet that you can catch more girls with a V8 Roadster as with a 997 Convertible.
Next point is that the AM has one big advantage. Exclusivity. Not everybody drives Aston Martin and that's IMO a good thing. So if you want an eyecatcher you have to go for an AM or a Ferrari.
The 911 is just sport. Not elegance. The AM V8 is both.
What I don't understand is why Aston can't do what Ferrari did with the 599. Despite the car being heavy it's a rocket on wheels and supposedly handles like a dream. Once they give their cars a proper performance specification and fix those pesky transmission problems, they will be hotter than Ferrari.
Crash because its under Ford.
Check Ford company sportscars (except Ford GT it is different thing).
Jaguar XK and XKR --- slower than a cayman S and Carrera S
Range Rover Supercharged---> i would prefer Cayenne S for performance
Volvo S60R---> is it real 300hp???
Aston v8 Vantage- ---> it is much better looking than Carrera S but Carrera is faster.
Vanquish S---> 60sec to 300kmh????? I would drive 550 maranello
IMO all ford company engines power is %20-25 less when compared to its rivals
Ha Astons are elite and best looking and i love them thats different than performance of course
The S60R is actually fast enough. 23 seconds from 0 to 200 km/h with AWD is respectable. As for everything else, you are quite right. Only regarding power, have you considered the possibility of increased drivetrain losses? What needs to be done is take an Aston and a Porsche to a dyno on the same day, first do a rolling road and then an engine dyno. I'm willing to bet there would be quite a big difference.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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Crash said:Quote:
KF said:
I agree for the DB9 and Vanquish. But not for the V8. This car is sporty. And i bet that you can catch more girls with a V8 Roadster as with a 997 Convertible.
Next point is that the AM has one big advantage. Exclusivity. Not everybody drives Aston Martin and that's IMO a good thing. So if you want an eyecatcher you have to go for an AM or a Ferrari.
The 911 is just sport. Not elegance. The AM V8 is both.
What I don't understand is why Aston can't do what Ferrari did with the 599. Despite the car being heavy it's a rocket on wheels and supposedly handles like a dream. Once they give their cars a proper performance specification and fix those pesky transmission problems, they will be hotter than Ferrari.
Because the AMV8 would cost more with it had 400bhp+...It is supposed to be the "baby Aston", the cheapest, available to more people.So with see the AMV8 as the cheapest Aston, you would realise the impressive job that AM did with it...and to remind you the AMV8 costs $110 000 but the 599, $255 000.
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
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AM V8 said:Quote:
Crash said:Quote:
KF said:
I agree for the DB9 and Vanquish. But not for the V8. This car is sporty. And i bet that you can catch more girls with a V8 Roadster as with a 997 Convertible.
Next point is that the AM has one big advantage. Exclusivity. Not everybody drives Aston Martin and that's IMO a good thing. So if you want an eyecatcher you have to go for an AM or a Ferrari.
The 911 is just sport. Not elegance. The AM V8 is both.
What I don't understand is why Aston can't do what Ferrari did with the 599. Despite the car being heavy it's a rocket on wheels and supposedly handles like a dream. Once they give their cars a proper performance specification and fix those pesky transmission problems, they will be hotter than Ferrari.
Because the AMV8 would cost more with it had 400bhp+...It is supposed to be the "baby Aston", the cheapest, available to more people.So with see the AMV8 as the cheapest Aston, you would realise the impressive job that AM did with it...and to remind you the AMV8 costs $110 000 but the 599, $255 000.
We mean the same thing, I just used the car as an example. The big Aston should have 599-like performance numbers, while the lower models should compete with the Carrera S and the Turbo (and I mean compete, not just sell in the same segment).
Re: LA Launch of Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
You really want to compare a old car (7 years in the market) with a brand new car? 
Wait for the DBS. I heard the car release should be next year.
But if you drive a AM you don't care about accelaration or lap times.
I think it is clear that the better track cars are build by Porsche. But AM did a great job!
Wait for the DBS. I heard the car release should be next year.
But if you drive a AM you don't care about accelaration or lap times.
I think it is clear that the better track cars are build by Porsche. But AM did a great job!
Lamborghini, too. But Ferrari and Lamborghini in a different way. Forum
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