Nov 19, 2006 9:03:24 PM
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Nov 20, 2006 12:02:11 AM
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Nov 20, 2006 9:49:40 AM
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Re: Sunroof on 997s
Thanks guys very helpful, great site as well, have learned so much on here from reading back through old posts
Nice to be on a car forum that covers both sides of the pond
Just come out of a BMW M3 CSL and into a 997s, it's a great place to be
I am really surprised you guys in the States can't delete the sunroof option on the GT3, God knows what Porsche are playing at putting a sunroof on track car, very very strange !
Nice to be on a car forum that covers both sides of the pond
Just come out of a BMW M3 CSL and into a 997s, it's a great place to be
I am really surprised you guys in the States can't delete the sunroof option on the GT3, God knows what Porsche are playing at putting a sunroof on track car, very very strange !
Re: Sunroof on 997s
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No rattle on mine after two years. Do not really use it and not sure if I would order one agin. It its a pain when your are detailing the car. I have to tape it off so I do not get any wax/polish on the edge of it.
A mix of 50:50 distilled water and alcohol on a swab usually gets rid of any wax/polish resdue on the felt sunroof trim
Re: Sunroof on 997s
Speaking of *rAtTlEs aNd nOiSe* I removed the little "aileron" that pops on my M3's sun roof, the car's muuuuuch quieter with sunroof open. Easy to solve the "mega bass" vibration by cracking rear window (on M3) a bit.
Thinking of doing this on 997S. At the moment, to make it quieter, to hold the flap down I just jamb a little block of wood ( 1/2 inch x 1 inch by 2 inches) with a red piece of yarn dangling to remind me it is there. You have to fiddle with the passenger window a bit, not as convienient as M3's openable rear windows.
Try it yourself, hold the "aileron" down at speeds; muuuuuch quieter.
They traded "mega bass" buffeting noise at certain speeds for annoying constant white noise by adding that pop up flap.
Thinking of doing this on 997S. At the moment, to make it quieter, to hold the flap down I just jamb a little block of wood ( 1/2 inch x 1 inch by 2 inches) with a red piece of yarn dangling to remind me it is there. You have to fiddle with the passenger window a bit, not as convienient as M3's openable rear windows.
Try it yourself, hold the "aileron" down at speeds; muuuuuch quieter.
They traded "mega bass" buffeting noise at certain speeds for annoying constant white noise by adding that pop up flap.
Nov 22, 2006 11:05:38 AM
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Nov 22, 2006 4:34:33 PM
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Nov 22, 2006 4:41:54 PM
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Re: Sunroof on 997s
No rattles on mine after one year and 16000 kms.
At speeds (above 100kmh) it's very noisy when opened, however to soften the turbulences, open one of the side windows slightly.
It's nice in town on a sunny (or not) day.
I know it adds weight in the wrong place but the added benefit outweights the loss of "performance" IMO.
It's a compromise but on anything else than a GT2 or GT3, I would recommende it.
Helps in resale value too.
At speeds (above 100kmh) it's very noisy when opened, however to soften the turbulences, open one of the side windows slightly.
It's nice in town on a sunny (or not) day.
I know it adds weight in the wrong place but the added benefit outweights the loss of "performance" IMO.
It's a compromise but on anything else than a GT2 or GT3, I would recommende it.
Helps in resale value too.
Nov 22, 2006 7:06:37 PM
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Re: Sunroof on 997s
8k and only rattles if open and driving over some serious bumps, which for me, a rattle'n'squeak freak, is not an issue.
My 996 Targa roof mechansim started rattling and squeaking adfter about 8k, and it required lubrication twice a season.
I know that many feel a sunroof adds resale value, but I for one, were I in the market for a used 911, would appreciate one without a sunroof. In fact, I had planned to get a 997S with sunroof delete and -20 mm sport suspension, but I couldn't wait any longer . . .
One last thing about the sunroof: '05's have a significant shudder that goes away if one of the side windows is opened up a crack. A minor redesign on the 06's has virtually eliminated this.
My 996 Targa roof mechansim started rattling and squeaking adfter about 8k, and it required lubrication twice a season.
I know that many feel a sunroof adds resale value, but I for one, were I in the market for a used 911, would appreciate one without a sunroof. In fact, I had planned to get a 997S with sunroof delete and -20 mm sport suspension, but I couldn't wait any longer . . .
One last thing about the sunroof: '05's have a significant shudder that goes away if one of the side windows is opened up a crack. A minor redesign on the 06's has virtually eliminated this.
Nov 22, 2006 7:27:11 PM
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Re: Sunroof on 997s
Just trying to help here with a suggestion for solving difficult problems, as futile as it seems, it's not always the case.
Take some time (and a strong directional lighting source) and carefully examine what you can see when the sunroof is open. Spend time (not just a cursory glances) until what you can actually see makes sense to you (how it works, what's going on etc.). IOW, loosely speaking, just look at and study the mechanism for a half hour insted of five minutes.
My point is you MAY actually find a loose screw, or two sections of metal in contact, or a missing part (not like the other side) or some other thing which you can fix yourself.
No kidding, I can't tell you how many times in my amateur mechanic career I solved seemingly intractable problems this way: just turn up the attention knob full blast and focus like a maniac on what you can see and feel.
Take some time (and a strong directional lighting source) and carefully examine what you can see when the sunroof is open. Spend time (not just a cursory glances) until what you can actually see makes sense to you (how it works, what's going on etc.). IOW, loosely speaking, just look at and study the mechanism for a half hour insted of five minutes.
My point is you MAY actually find a loose screw, or two sections of metal in contact, or a missing part (not like the other side) or some other thing which you can fix yourself.
No kidding, I can't tell you how many times in my amateur mechanic career I solved seemingly intractable problems this way: just turn up the attention knob full blast and focus like a maniac on what you can see and feel.
Nov 23, 2006 8:21:04 PM
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Nov 24, 2006 3:28:42 AM
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Re: Sunroof on 997s
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Hi guys, just about to make my first Porsche purchase, not sure about the sunroof option , I have read they start to rattle after a while, what is anyones experience of this ? I presume if it did a warranty claim would be appropriate
Thanks for any feedback
I've had a sunroof on my cars since 1976 and I wouldn't have a car without one. While it rains just as much here in the Pacific Northwest as in jolly old England, the ability to crack it open a touch greatly improves ventalation. Rolling down the side windows lets in to much traffic noise to be comfortable.
Nov 24, 2006 10:37:09 AM
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Nov 24, 2006 10:19:20 PM
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Re: Sunroof on 997s
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Silver_Surfer said:
I know you don't get the choice in the US...
Are you sure? I don't have a sunroof on my 997S.
WHAT!?!?!?
Absolutely no sunroof delete option on the 997 in North America. There was a sunroof delete option on the 996, BUT NOT THE 997.
How can this be?
Nov 24, 2006 11:24:39 PM
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