Crown
Board: Ferrari
Language: English
Region: Worldwide
Close
CloseForum - Thread
Oct 26, 2006 1:43:52 PM
- Avantgarde
- Senior
-
- Loc: City State
- Posts: 708, Gallery
- Registered on: Apr 6, 2005
- Reply to: Nick_Athens
Oct 27, 2006 1:25:32 AM
- Avantgarde
- Senior
-
- Loc: City State
- Posts: 708, Gallery
- Registered on: Apr 6, 2005
- Reply to: Mike S
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
Quote:
Mike S said:Quote:
Flevio said:
Avantgarde, the photo in your sign is beautiful...
Can you tell me where i can find it in high res.?
Thanks
I believe that is HIS car
Cheers
Hope this link helps
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o314/Avantgarde33/RC10a.jpg
Simply insert [/IMG] in front and back of the link.
Oct 27, 2006 8:19:55 AM
- Flevio
- Junior
-
- Loc: Italy
- Posts: 61, Gallery
- Registered on: Jun 30, 2004
- Reply to: Avantgarde
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
Quote:
Avantgarde said:Quote:
Mike S said:Quote:
Flevio said:
Avantgarde, the photo in your sign is beautiful...
Can you tell me where i can find it in high res.?
Thanks
I believe that is HIS car
Cheers
Hope this link helps
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o314/Avantgarde33/RC10a.jpg
Simply insert [/IMG] in front and back of the link.
Thank you very much
It seems that we have the same taste
I also own a F430 F1
Mike S, your garage is simply stunning
Oct 27, 2006 1:46:20 PM
- BC
- Rennteam Pro
-
- Loc: Cape Town , South Africa
- Posts: 2586, Gallery
- Registered on: May 19, 2005
- Reply to: bostonmini
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
From a Porsche fan I have to say that if this is true, it will walk all over it's 911 competitors. Maybe it wont be just as good as a GT3/RS as far as steering feel and handling is concerned (maybe, maybe it will be even better), but the advantage it will have in acceleration will more than make up for it if lap times are concerned.
GT3's are actually the 'standard' F430 competitors now actually....and just to think that previously, the 996 GT3/RS would wipe the floor with the standard 360. Many even thought that the 360 Stradale was not as good as a 996 GT3RS.
Tables have turned, big time
GT3's are actually the 'standard' F430 competitors now actually....and just to think that previously, the 996 GT3/RS would wipe the floor with the standard 360. Many even thought that the 360 Stradale was not as good as a 996 GT3RS.
Tables have turned, big time
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
I agree that the CS does look like David vs Goliath when compared to the GT3RS, upon first look.
But the 360CS was a complete let down, compared to the GT3RS and compared to what most Ferrari fans want to lead you to believe.
I guess we can only hope that the 430CS will be the "all form/noise" and no function the 360CS was.
But the 360CS was a complete let down, compared to the GT3RS and compared to what most Ferrari fans want to lead you to believe.
I guess we can only hope that the 430CS will be the "all form/noise" and no function the 360CS was.
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
Quote:
RR4 said:
I agree that the CS does look like David vs Goliath when compared to the GT3RS, upon first look.
But the 360CS was a complete let down, compared to the GT3RS and compared to what most Ferrari fans want to lead you to believe.
I guess we can only hope that the 430CS will be the "all form/noise" and no function the 360CS was.
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone refer to the CS as a complete let-down. Are you relaying your own opinion of the CS after driving/owning one or just what you've heard from someone else?The CS is a great car. Had one for 2 years and loved it. If given the opportunity to choose between Porsche GT3RS or Ferrari CS no question which car I'm driving away in. Just so you know I'm not biased or a die hard fan one way or the other I love em both (Porsche & Ferrari)
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
The 360CS is a great car, yes. Yes the seats are great and the sound is fantastic and it looks great and the whole Ferrari experience is overwhelming for the driver when compared to a GT3 or the GT3RS, BUT for the extra money over over a MkIIGT3 and a MKIIGT3RS - let alone the premium over a regular 360 one would have expected better performance out of it.
Sport Auto Magazine tested the 360CS at the track at 7:56, where as they achieved a 7:54 for the GT3, and a 7:47 for the GT3RS and Walter Rohrl achieved a 7:43 himself on the GT3RS.
Top Gear also on their little airstrip track achieved equal times for both the 360CS and GT3RS.
Outside of the fact that the CS gives you that Ferrari experience that you all love - there's no denying that - but the CS did not prove its premium on a purely performance level (which on its own is odd considering Ferrari dominates the F1 track) AND performed "only as well" - no better -than the GT3RS and GT3 - a vehicle that has 40HP les than it.
I've owned my 04GT3 since August 03, and my friend has a 360CS - and in my experience at the track the CS neither shows that it is the lighter car nor the more powerful car of the 2. Has anyone?
Sport Auto Magazine tested the 360CS at the track at 7:56, where as they achieved a 7:54 for the GT3, and a 7:47 for the GT3RS and Walter Rohrl achieved a 7:43 himself on the GT3RS.
Top Gear also on their little airstrip track achieved equal times for both the 360CS and GT3RS.
Outside of the fact that the CS gives you that Ferrari experience that you all love - there's no denying that - but the CS did not prove its premium on a purely performance level (which on its own is odd considering Ferrari dominates the F1 track) AND performed "only as well" - no better -than the GT3RS and GT3 - a vehicle that has 40HP les than it.
I've owned my 04GT3 since August 03, and my friend has a 360CS - and in my experience at the track the CS neither shows that it is the lighter car nor the more powerful car of the 2. Has anyone?
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
If you really look at what you get for the premium of the CS vs the Modena it's a bargain. $10k (option in the 430) CF engine compartment. $17k CCM brakes. $5k CF seats. $5k CF center consule & sills. CF doors (if they were available prob $10-$15k). $2k Challenge wheels & tit. bolts. Tit. Springs, Mod front bumper, rear bumper, rocker panels, challenge grill, cf mirrors, Exhaust, Engine tweaks, Tires. $10k F1 trans w/ launch control. etc.ec. Over $70k in options/mods not counting the engine teaks, body panels, titanium springs, tires, etc,etc. PLUS (and this is a big plus) the fact it was a limited production one year only car which held it's value much better than the Modena (I made money after owning the CS 2 years) so "the premium over a regular 360" was really the best deal in town. And if you want to judge the CS at msrp based on it's value vs. a Porsche GT3, well obviously you lose about 30% or more w/ the Porsche and get your money back, even making money by owning the Ferrari "so for the extra money over over a MkIIGT3"...... it's a no brainer.
In terms of performance we could sit here all day going back and forth obviously both cars are very competitive but like I said before if presented keys to a brand new GT3 and a Challenge Stradale and told to pick one there's no doubt which car I'd pick and I love Porsche's/drive one everyday. But I get it you're a Porsche guy.
In terms of performance we could sit here all day going back and forth obviously both cars are very competitive but like I said before if presented keys to a brand new GT3 and a Challenge Stradale and told to pick one there's no doubt which car I'd pick and I love Porsche's/drive one everyday. But I get it you're a Porsche guy.
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
Quote:
Gary(SF) said:Quote:
STRADALE said:
There's still the racing seat issue though.
Why couldn't they use the seats from the 599?
Gary
That's what I was thinking too. But who knows if they'd even be the right proportions for the car. How wide/how tall are they? How high is the seating surface/could you wear a helmet? Guess we'll see.
Re: 430 CS - new spy pics
I think the new GT2 will meet the expectations of many people. Not only do I think it will match the 430CS in terms of performance, I think it will create quite a gap to the Ferrari. The question is whether it is going to be a handful to drive just like the 996 GT2 (Mk1).
Forum
About Rennteam | Help | Terms of use | Privacy Policy | Support | Contact | Imprint | Archive
Powered by
Community
and
