Aug 23, 2006 1:05:31 PM
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, which makes the results even more interesting!!
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage. The GT3 gear ratios are too long just like previous generation. This really cuts some driving pleasure, at least this was what I felt while driving 996 GT3, the power is to spread along the rev range, never really felt big punch from the engine, I much prefer the power deliver on Turbo engine thrue the rev range, just my 2 cents.
J.Seven
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Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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J.Seven said:
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage. The GT3 gear ratios are too long just like previous generation. This really cuts some driving pleasure, at least this was what I felt while driving 996 GT3, the power is to spread along the rev range, never really felt big punch from the engine, I much prefer the power deliver on Turbo engine thrue the rev range, just my 2 cents.
J.Seven
It cuts the daily rounds driving pleasure, but this car is meant to live above 5500rpms, on a track, revving hard, similar to many other high-strung NA engines (F430, S2000 etc etc).
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't read Italian, but it seemed like the GT3 had some better elasticity acceleration numbers in 5th gear than 997TT? How could that be true?
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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J.Seven said:
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage. The GT3 gear ratios are too long just like previous generation. This really cuts some driving pleasure, at least this was what I felt while driving 996 GT3, the power is to spread along the rev range, never really felt big punch from the engine, I much prefer the power deliver on Turbo engine thrue the rev range, just my 2 cents.
J.Seven
It cuts the daily rounds driving pleasure, but this car is meant to live above 5500rpms, on a track, revving hard, similar to many other high-strung NA engines (F430, S2000 etc etc).
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't read Italian, but it seemed like the GT3 had some better elasticity acceleration numbers in 5th gear than 997TT? How could that be true?
Yes, good observation. 40-80 km/h range is where the Turbo in 5th gear is below 2000 rpm and the turbochargers have no juice. The high-compression GT3 engine on the other hand, fares a bit better.
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
Damn, haven't even noticed! The times are really good! The one tested in AMS achieved 0-100 km/h in 3.7, 0-160 km/h in 8.0 and 0-200 km/h in 12.3 seconds. This car did it in 3.8 and 7.6 seconds. I think it's safe to say that it can do 0-200 km/h in about 11.8-11.9 seconds.
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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J.Seven said:
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage.
J.Seven
I think the GT3 got the better milage...it's in km/L.
I know it's Km/L, please read again the numbers, 997TT needs less gas than GT3.
J.Seven
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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Walter said:Quote:
J.Seven said:
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage.
J.Seven
I think the GT3 got the better milage...it's in km/L.
I know it's Km/L, please read again the numbers, 997TT needs less gas than GT3.
J.Seven
Maybe you misunderstood a litlle. The numbers indicate the distance traveled in km's with 1 liter of fuel.
Please look at the numbers again and you will find the GT3 is a little better. At full speed both can drive less then 3 km on one liter. Turbo 2.O km/liter versus GT3 2.4km/liter.
Hope this helps.
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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J.Seven said:Quote:
Walter said:Quote:
J.Seven said:
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage.
J.Seven
I think the GT3 got the better milage...it's in km/L.
I know it's Km/L, please read again the numbers, 997TT needs less gas than GT3.
J.Seven
Maybe you misunderstood a litlle. The numbers indicate the distance traveled in km's with 1 liter of fuel.
Please look at the numbers again and you will find the GT3 is a little better. At full speed both can drive less then 3 km on one liter. Turbo 2.O km/liter versus GT3 2.4km/liter.
Hope this helps.
PERFECT!!
we tell in brazil like this... KM/L
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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993S said:Quote:
J.Seven said:Quote:
Walter said:Quote:
J.Seven said:
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage.
J.Seven
I think the GT3 got the better milage...it's in km/L.
I know it's Km/L, please read again the numbers, 997TT needs less gas than GT3.
J.Seven
Maybe you misunderstood a litlle. The numbers indicate the distance traveled in km's with 1 liter of fuel.
Please look at the numbers again and you will find the GT3 is a little better. At full speed both can drive less then 3 km on one liter. Turbo 2.O km/liter versus GT3 2.4km/liter.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for clarifying
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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J.Seven said:
This shows how much better is the 997TT for an everyday use, turbo engine has much better torque and even better gas milage. The GT3 gear ratios are too long just like previous generation. This really cuts some driving pleasure, at least this was what I felt while driving 996 GT3, the power is to spread along the rev range, never really felt big punch from the engine, I much prefer the power deliver on Turbo engine thrue the rev range, just my 2 cents.
J.Seven
POWERCAR had danish pro racecar driver Kurt Thiim driving both, the 997 GT3 and the 997 Turbo on the Nuerburgring Grand Prix track which is pretty short, even compared to the Kleiner Kurs in Hockenheim. Surprisingly, Kurt Thiim liked the 997 Turbo more and it was even faster than the GT3, despite the semi-slicks on the GT3.
However, don't get this comparison wrong: the 997 Turbo is heavier than the GT3, so after a couple of rounds, I doubt that the Turbo can keep up with the GT3 on a race track.
Of course there is also the price tag of the GT3, which in my opinion is the "best bang for the buck" from Porsche right now.
I would love to own both but since I can't and since I'm not a professional track driver (or an "each weekend on the track" addict), I've opted for the (unfortunately) more expensive 997 Turbo.
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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KresoF1 said:
Sport Auto data are correct ones! You can simply flush down the toilet Italian mag test data...
Italian car magazines seem to be flawed indeed... Remember that crazy test of the 997TT vs. F430 etc. The only test out of about 100 with such crazy performance data
Maybe the Italian magazines should focus on translating sportauto and AMS tests. Would improve content quality quite substantially
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KresoF1 said:
Sport Auto data are correct ones! You can simply flush down the toilet Italian mag test data...
Italian car magazines seem to be flawed indeed... Remember that crazy test of the 997TT vs. F430 etc. The only test out of about 100 with such crazy performance data
Maybe the Italian magazines should focus on translating sportauto and AMS tests. Would improve content quality quite substantially
So you also say sportauto is true, right??
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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MKSGR said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
Sport Auto data are correct ones! You can simply flush down the toilet Italian mag test data...
Italian car magazines seem to be flawed indeed... Remember that crazy test of the 997TT vs. F430 etc. The only test out of about 100 with such crazy performance data
Maybe the Italian magazines should focus on translating sportauto and AMS tests. Would improve content quality quite substantially
So you also say sportauto is true, right??
We all do. They will publish reliable performance data, regardless of whether they are good or bad.
Re: 997 Turbo vs 997 GT3
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VGA18 said:Quote:
MKSGR said:Quote:
KresoF1 said:
Sport Auto data are correct ones! You can simply flush down the toilet Italian mag test data...
Italian car magazines seem to be flawed indeed... Remember that crazy test of the 997TT vs. F430 etc. The only test out of about 100 with such crazy performance data
Maybe the Italian magazines should focus on translating sportauto and AMS tests. Would improve content quality quite substantially
So you also say sportauto is true, right??
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