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    Aug 2, 2006 1:27:23 PM

    KresoF1
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    I still do not know what will happened. I am not in Zagreb at the moment but, VW importer in Croatia is not willing to handle any cost what so ever! And they are right IMO!
    BTW, it is 240hp/330Nm power chip, cost around 2000Euro. Interesting thinh is ABT claim that 240hp is with 98 ROZ fuel! If you use 95 ROZ you only get about 220HP and even 200HP with ROZ below 95!! That sound very strange to me... Usually power is not that low is you use Super instead of Super Plus(or any 99 or 100 ROZ fuel). His engine was constantly running at higher temperature then normal after installing power chip when driving at high tempo(over 200km/H) and fuel consumption was about 2L higher then normal GTI.
    Be very carefull about warranty if any of you plan to power chip their cars, specially turbocharged ones!

    Aug 2, 2006 1:40:14 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    Be very carefull about warranty if any of you plan to power chip their cars, specially turbocharged ones!



    To be honest, I would never do so. Not even at a GTI.

    Aug 2, 2006 2:01:26 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    Quote:
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    Be very carefull about warranty if any of you plan to power chip their cars, specially turbocharged ones!



    To be honest, I would never do so. Not even at a GTI.



    What would be the point, honestly? If you have a 500 horsepower sports car for spirited driving, a GTI with 200 horsepower would be more than enough for commuting. If it's your only car, however, an investment into the R32 would be a better decision.
    However, the chip maker should be sued, since the car obviously wasn't running correctly. There are 150 PS TDI engines being tuned to over 200 PS (even 220 with an exhaust) and they are all running without problems. Of course the engine isn't going to last as long, but grenading the engine after only 4000 kilometres should not happen.

    Aug 2, 2006 2:10:57 PM

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    What would be the point, honestly? If you have a 500 horsepower sports car for spirited driving, a GTI with 200 horsepower would be more than enough for commuting. If it's your only car, however, an investment into the R32 would be a better decision.


    Exactly!

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    However, the chip maker should be sued, since the car obviously wasn't running correctly. There are 150 PS TDI engines being tuned to over 200 PS (even 220 with an exhaust) and they are all running without problems. Of course the engine isn't going to last as long, but grenading the engine after only 4000 kilometres should not happen.


    Very true.

    Aug 2, 2006 2:15:04 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    My S3 gets way more attention than my Porsche does! This new S3 looks pretty plain to me



    When I got my A3 in March, it got more attention than my 997. At the time, it was still pretty new here in the states.

    Aug 2, 2006 3:23:39 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    Little info-S3 engine is pretty much reworked version of 2.0L TFSI in GTI, S3 engine is different in over 40% of all parts! BTW, my friend installed ABT chip in his GTI and experienced engine failure after just 4000km! He is currently seeking warranty issues... Maximum power for normal GTI engine is around 225hp without major changes. New S3 engine(265hp) and new Leon Cupra engine(240hp) are pretty different then basic GTI engine(different turbo charger, stronger head material, different cylinder material, etc.). Just be very carefull with aftermarket chips for TFSI engines...



    Audi should have offered around 310hp in the new S3 - not just 265

    The S3 engine is not strong enough to make the car attractive. No substantial improvement over the old 3.2 version, unfortunately.

    Aug 2, 2006 3:42:16 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    Little info-S3 engine is pretty much reworked version of 2.0L TFSI in GTI, S3 engine is different in over 40% of all parts! BTW, my friend installed ABT chip in his GTI and experienced engine failure after just 4000km! He is currently seeking warranty issues... Maximum power for normal GTI engine is around 225hp without major changes. New S3 engine(265hp) and new Leon Cupra engine(240hp) are pretty different then basic GTI engine(different turbo charger, stronger head material, different cylinder material, etc.). Just be very carefull with aftermarket chips for TFSI engines...



    Audi should have offered around 310hp in the new S3 - not just 265

    The S3 engine is not strong enough to make the car attractive. No substantial improvement over the old 3.2 version, unfortunately.



    That will be the job of the RS3 coming later.

    Aug 2, 2006 3:50:54 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    Little info-S3 engine is pretty much reworked version of 2.0L TFSI in GTI, S3 engine is different in over 40% of all parts! BTW, my friend installed ABT chip in his GTI and experienced engine failure after just 4000km! He is currently seeking warranty issues... Maximum power for normal GTI engine is around 225hp without major changes. New S3 engine(265hp) and new Leon Cupra engine(240hp) are pretty different then basic GTI engine(different turbo charger, stronger head material, different cylinder material, etc.). Just be very carefull with aftermarket chips for TFSI engines...



    Audi should have offered around 310hp in the new S3 - not just 265

    The S3 engine is not strong enough to make the car attractive. No substantial improvement over the old 3.2 version, unfortunately.



    That will be the job of the RS3 coming later.



    Will this RS3 be based on the 3.5-VR6?

    Aug 2, 2006 3:51:31 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    Quote:
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    Quote:
    KresoF1 said:
    Little info-S3 engine is pretty much reworked version of 2.0L TFSI in GTI, S3 engine is different in over 40% of all parts! BTW, my friend installed ABT chip in his GTI and experienced engine failure after just 4000km! He is currently seeking warranty issues... Maximum power for normal GTI engine is around 225hp without major changes. New S3 engine(265hp) and new Leon Cupra engine(240hp) are pretty different then basic GTI engine(different turbo charger, stronger head material, different cylinder material, etc.). Just be very carefull with aftermarket chips for TFSI engines...



    Audi should have offered around 310hp in the new S3 - not just 265

    The S3 engine is not strong enough to make the car attractive. No substantial improvement over the old 3.2 version, unfortunately.



    That will be the job of the RS3 coming later.



    But will it come? There have been rumors that the model has been axed.

    Aug 2, 2006 4:21:28 PM

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    No. New RS3 will be based on new 2.6L R5 engine(and this one is based on 5.2L V10 in S6/S8 and future R8)! Specs? 330hp/420Nm!! Turbo charged FSI engine, of course! This info is right one you will see! And new 2.6L R5 will also go to the new TTR!
    But, I like new S3 a lot. Few more info-new steering wheel is option, there are three 18" wheel option(different style, one is five spoke, other is RS4 seven spoke derivate in 18"). There is new orange exterior color option(Hello Lambo!)...
    Dimensions: 4214L x 1765W x 1399H(WB 2578)

    Aug 2, 2006 4:25:12 PM

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    No. New RS3 will be based on new 2.6L R5 engine(and this one is based on 5.2L V10 in S6/S8 and future R8)! Specs? 330hp/420Nm!! Turbo charged FSI engine, of course! This info is right one you will see! And new 2.6L R5 will also go to the new TTR!



    Ah right, now I remember about that. Having read it before.

    Perhaps I'm getting old.

    Anyway, turbocharged-R5 sounds great, like in the good old days of quattro.

    Aug 2, 2006 4:37:59 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    No. New RS3 will be based on new 2.6L R5 engine(and this one is based on 5.2L V10 in S6/S8 and future R8)! Specs? 330hp/420Nm!! Turbo charged FSI engine, of course! This info is right one you will see! And new 2.6L R5 will also go to the new TTR!




    That does sound good

    Aug 2, 2006 6:18:40 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    KresoF1 said:
    No. New RS3 will be based on new 2.6L R5 engine(and this one is based on 5.2L V10 in S6/S8 and future R8)! Specs? 330hp/420Nm!! Turbo charged FSI engine, of course! This info is right one you will see! And new 2.6L R5 will also go to the new TTR!




    Do you have any info when 2.6 R5 turbo will be offered in TT?

    Aug 2, 2006 6:30:59 PM

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    And the US will see none of it?

    Aug 2, 2006 6:36:12 PM

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    Re: New Audi S3 Offiicial Pics

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    Little info-S3 engine is pretty much reworked version of 2.0L TFSI in GTI, S3 engine is different in over 40% of all parts! BTW, my friend installed ABT chip in his GTI and experienced engine failure after just 4000km! He is currently seeking warranty issues... Maximum power for normal GTI engine is around 225hp without major changes. New S3 engine(265hp) and new Leon Cupra engine(240hp) are pretty different then basic GTI engine(different turbo charger, stronger head material, different cylinder material, etc.). Just be very carefull with aftermarket chips for TFSI engines...



    Ive got very good opinion about APR products for VAG turbo engines. I would defenetly put only APR chip into 2.0 TFSI, with ON / OFF switch, that mean Ive got stock 200 hp when I dont need full power, and when I race to someone I turn switch to ON and I get a little over 250 hp.

    Mybie APR products are a little more expensive, but they are great...

    My friend is big VAG fan, and with APR turbo kit he had 325 hp on 1.8T (stock 180 hp) and car worked in this setup without problems.

    Heres are a few videos of this Leon:

    - Seat Leon 1.8T vs Porsche 911 996 Turbo:

    http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/3338/6461Leon_-_Turbo.avi

    and

    http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/3338/6461Leon_-_Turbo2.avi

    And here this same Leon 1.8T made E46 M3 SMG look like really slow car

    http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/3338/6461m3-leon.avi

    This shows how good potencial VAG turbo engines have and APR offers for them some really great upgrate chances...

    I will tell him (owner of this Leon) for this forum, I hope he will come here, because he has got really a lot experiences about those VAG engines...
     
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