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pfslai said:
Hi Tim
I'm being overworked and overstressed. It's really not a good thing. All I got to enjoy is my 997 and my stereo. I haven't been back to Vancouver in ages. Btw, did you get tiptronic again or did your wife learn to drive manual?
Cheers
Paul
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Dan L said:
Any 996TT will smoke a 997S on any road. They are a quantum leap over them. The 997TT has a bit over the 996TT cars.
Dan
Jul 26, 2006 11:10:55 AM
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Alex (UK) said:
If the extra weight doesn't affect handling then the decision is really just "would I miss changing gears even if it meant the car was slower as a result"...
Thanks!!
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bstew said:
I own a 997 non S mode and it does everything I want it to. Would I like more hp sure but do I need it???
Jul 26, 2006 2:06:40 PM
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Dan L said:
Any 996TT will smoke a 997S on any road. They are a quantum leap over them. The 997TT has a bit over the 996TT cars.
Dan
Hey Dan,
What is your definition of "quantum leap"? I have driven both cars extensively and I agree with all writers that the 996TT is definitely always faster, but not to the point of your exaggeration...
Your argument will work comparing a Porsche 911 to a Honda Civic.
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Dan L said:
I guess that was a poor term to use,--as it is all relative.
Dan
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kkeating said:
I was all excited to trade in my 997S on the new turbo. I got a launch car for $99k and was offered $73k for trade less than 2 years later. And I love the car but a little more power would be nice. The turbo i wanted was close to $150k out the door. So I got a new M5 and kept the Pcar and for close to the same $$ as if I traded in the 997S. I like the looks better on the 997S- cleaner and sleeker looking than the gills, front led's, rear bumper of the 997tt. Sure the turbo is faster than either car but where in America can you drive any faster than the 997S or M5 (and the turbo is no big deal on the track- get a GT3 if that's your thing). Personally, I think the plain old 997 coupe is the best looking car on the road at any price and the power is more than any of use can safely or effectively use. And the argument about the turbo being an exotic is a stretch..it's no Ferrari or Lamborghini and looks more like a 911 than anything else. WE would all notice it but the general public doesn't know the difference IF you want to get noticed, If you want stealth, it's ideal. It just wasn't worth $75k more than the 997S to go a little faster.
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kkeating said:
I was all excited to trade in my 997S on the new turbo. I got a launch car for $99k and was offered $73k for trade less than 2 years later. And I love the car but a little more power would be nice. The turbo i wanted was close to $150k out the door. So I got a new M5 and kept the Pcar and for close to the same $$ as if I traded in the 997S. I like the looks better on the 997S- cleaner and sleeker looking than the gills, front led's, rear bumper of the 997tt. Sure the turbo is faster than either car but where in America can you drive any faster than the 997S or M5 (and the turbo is no big deal on the track- get a GT3 if that's your thing). Personally, I think the plain old 997 coupe is the best looking car on the road at any price and the power is more than any of use can safely or effectively use. And the argument about the turbo being an exotic is a stretch..it's no Ferrari or Lamborghini and looks more like a 911 than anything else. WE would all notice it but the general public doesn't know the difference IF you want to get noticed, If you want stealth, it's ideal. It just wasn't worth $75k more than the 997S to go a little faster.
Jul 27, 2006 2:53:48 PM
Jul 27, 2006 3:05:45 PM
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69bossnine said:
I've been looking at the Turbos in pictures, and now in person, enough to allow it all to "sink in"..
Bottom line, it's only attractive in dark colors that mask all of the over-wrought and distracting scoops and vents and whatnot. I realize that they are functional, but nevertheless...
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69bossnine said:
I've been looking at the Turbos in pictures, and now in person, enough to allow it all to "sink in"..
Bottom line, it's only attractive in dark colors that mask all of the over-wrought and distracting scoops and vents and whatnot. I realize that they are functional, but nevertheless...
There you go again, making all that good sense.
Yeah, if I do order a TT it's gonna have to be a dark color to hide the frilly BS. Talk about non-functional: exhaust apertures and tailpipes are the worst. The "less expensive" plastic insert side engine vents reeeeeally bug me. Should be seamless, built into body panel. The wing is also annoying, but thankfully not as flambouyant as a GT3. The wheels are very nice, but again, add to the slightly frilly over-styling of the car.
Dark color---yup--- the best way to go if you want to clean up some of Porsche's overdone styling.
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devo said:
To each his/her own. Frankly, I love my silver turbo with it's, vents, spoiler and all. The price of admission is high, but, after owning this car, I couldn't go back to the 997S now.
$150,000.00 for the turbo, that's like saying that the 997S is $105,000.00.
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devo said:
To each his/her own. Frankly, I love my silver turbo with it's, vents, spoiler and all. The price of admission is high, but, after owning this car, I couldn't go back to the 997S now.
$150,000.00 for the turbo, that's like saying that the 997S is $105,000.00.
Yup I did it again. Sorry. If we were hanging out in your driveway I would looooove your color choice and car.
When you're alone the theoretical takes over.
It's like having Heather Graham as a girlfriend, perfect in everyway, yet you might start thinking that her boobs are a liiiiiittle too big and she giggles a liiiiiittle too much sometimes... .
Still it's just personal preferences. I'm a minimalist. I "hate" excess stuff everywhere.
Oops, I just remembered I forgot to rinse/clean the bathroom sink out, I just used it again... .
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MMD said:
The way I understand it is this.
Say you trade in your nearly-new 997s and fork over another us$60-70K to get the turbo.
Will you feel like you wasted money?
From what I've gathered the answer is "No!"
Why?
Because you've crossed the line into SUPER CAR territory. The total difference is well worth it and impossible to imagine unless you've actually been there yourself.
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devo said:
I must be a little sloooow. I'm unsure if you insulted me.
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devo said:
I must be a little sloooow. I'm unsure if you insulted me.
No no no! I would never do that. This is all for fun; hobby stuff. We're just talking and discussing stuff from all different of points of view. I apologise for any confusion I might have (inadvertantly) caused... .