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AUM said:
Nurburgring lap time: 7 minutes, 49 seconds (manual), 7 minutes, 52 seconds (auto).
http://drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?articleID=11917&vf=2
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AUM said:
Track knowledge is absolutely vital to the NBR. This can only be gained by driving lots of fast laps (videos cannot capture the driving experience adequately).
Even professional drivers require many laps to learn the NBR roller-coaster before they can achieve the lap times you see posted.
The first 20 or 30 laps may be easier with a Tip to allow you to focus on learning the track and not be caught in the wrong gear. After you know the track well, however, it is simple to set the car up in the right gear before corners; gear changes do not occur as frequently as on shorter two-dimensional tracks.
Tip is easier for some drivers on unfamiliar twist roads but, for the average spirited driver, the manual LSD offers more traction and stability on any track or twisty back road. Consequently manual LSD lap times will be faster as your skill level improves with practise. Plus you will have a lot more fun and satisfaction in developing your skills.
Your opinion is likely to change after you have learned the track.
BTW, I am not a manual diehard. I would certainly consider a two-pedal PDK if traction, stability and control were equal or superior to manual. The problem with Tip is that it compromises these essential track qualities.
Jun 29, 2006 12:21:56 AM
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Charlie997tt said:
First time poster, joined today.
I, for one, read every bit of info on the Tip vs. manual controversy. The dispassionate opinions are most useful, but whatever. My 997tt is not even ordered yet - long line. I'd decided to wait for PDK, then bought an Audi A3 3.2 with DSG. The DSG is fun and interesting - very fast - but also disengaging and a bit wacky. So I jumped in line to order a manual 997tt.
I almost certainly won't track this car - I have a highly modified 993tt for that purpose. And, honestly, I'm not even that "spirited" a driver anymore - when I take my Porsches out, wiggling a gearshift and pushing a clutch are "fun" activities for me - 6/10ths on a public road is just fine by me, 90% of the time. Plus, the perfect heel&toe always feels good to me. Even if the Tip is great and the PDK greater, I'd miss this "anachronism". Trying to wrap my mind around this new technology and adopt it as "fun" is hard, after shifting for so many years.....
I want to say thanks for continuing the debate. It IS useful to some of us readers.
Thanks
Jun 29, 2006 1:12:22 AM
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Charlie997tt said:
First time poster, joined today.
I, for one, read every bit of info on the Tip vs. manual controversy. The dispassionate opinions are most useful, but whatever. My 997tt is not even ordered yet - long line. I'd decided to wait for PDK, then bought an Audi A3 3.2 with DSG. The DSG is fun and interesting - very fast - but also disengaging and a bit wacky. So I jumped in line to order a manual 997tt.
I almost certainly won't track this car - I have a highly modified 993tt for that purpose. And, honestly, I'm not even that "spirited" a driver anymore - when I take my Porsches out, wiggling a gearshift and pushing a clutch are "fun" activities for me - 6/10ths on a public road is just fine by me, 90% of the time. Plus, the perfect heel&toe always feels good to me. Even if the Tip is great and the PDK greater, I'd miss this "anachronism". Trying to wrap my mind around this new technology and adopt it as "fun" is hard, after shifting for so many years.....
I want to say thanks for continuing the debate. It IS useful to some of us readers.
I like the way you think! 
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