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May 11, 2006 5:52:16 PM
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1. Targa 4 and Targa 4S
2. widebody
3. introduction end of this year (Nov.)
I was in Zuffenhausen last week and took the factory tour. There were one or two Targas rolling around the factory grounds and roads nearby. They weren't hiding them at all. The only thing hidden was the Targa script on the rear which was covered by tape.
The tour was amazing. They make about 175 911's per day in two shifts!
May 11, 2006 6:28:25 PM
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May 11, 2006 8:15:03 PM
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Funny that there have been no good spy pics yet then... but anyway, we all know whot it is going to look like. At least, I am not expecting huge serprises
Looking forward to seeing them. The widebody is a surprise though...
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The roof looks the same as the old 996 Targa, it was very noticeable though. As soon as I saw it I knew it was a 997 Targa. Come to think of it there may have been one or two on the production line as I went through the factory though I was completely distracted by the large number of Turbos that were on the line at the time. It seems that every 3rd or 4th car was a Turbo. There were at least 10 finished Turbos in the line up between the assembly building and the engine works.
May 11, 2006 8:54:18 PM
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May 11, 2006 11:51:00 PM
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May 12, 2006 3:21:35 AM
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May 12, 2006 11:42:58 AM
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I think it's very clever of Porsche to offer it with AWD and with wide body. I suspect that we will see better Targa sales than ever.
Yeah, but what for? The AWD on the Carrera makes sense if you are driving hard on the limit - something I simply can't see most of the appropriate owners doing.
I do like the looks though - according to AMS the AWD frontend is more stable than the 2WD counterpart. This might help the targa but I would rather opt for the GT3's 90l fuel tank than the front driven axle!
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they should offer a turbo targa......that would be the nonplusultra 911....
Hey, we're still in the early years of 997 lifecycle with already a lot of models almost ready to hit the streets... maybe that will mean that they are planning to keep introducing new models. (I thought strategy was a new model every 6 months?) So, maybe the 997ttt (twin turbo targa) is still in the pipline!
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Yeah, but what for? The AWD on the Carrera makes sense if you are driving hard on the limit - something I simply can't see most of the appropriate owners doing.
Ok sorry everyone, I am to blame for this. ;an
My boss and I were discussing why the Targa was not selling. So I said: It's obvious, it's because of the lack of AWD! Many Targa buyers are getting one instead of of a Cab because the wheather s*cks so much where they live (face it, the wheather did s*ck in Germany, even in Stuttgart
). It just makes sense to give those people the bad-wheather-drivability they are looking for.Lo and behold, a couple of years later, the Targa is only available as AWD. I should have asked for a raise.
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intouch1 said:
they should offer a turbo targa......that would be the nonplusultra 911....
Well...
oh my...
porsche is stronger than ever, these are realistic possbilities, no ?
actually the more i think about it, the more realistic it seems, becuase now that the targa is built on the widebody chassis... hmm
per usual, this is the place you hear it first!
May 14, 2006 3:31:24 PM
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Silver Bullet said:
I think it's very clever of Porsche to offer it with AWD and with wide body. I suspect that we will see better Targa sales than ever.
Yeah, but what for? The AWD on the Carrera makes sense if you are driving hard on the limit - something I simply can't see most of the appropriate owners doing.
I do like the looks though - according to AMS the AWD frontend is more stable than the 2WD counterpart. This might help the targa but I would rather opt for the GT3's 90l fuel tank than the front driven axle!
I disagree with both of your statements:
1) I don't think of AWD as being useful if you drive hard and on the limit unless the limit you are talking about is one of traction. The GT3 is for driving hard and on the limit and it does not have AWD.
2) I don't think potential Targa owners are any less likely to drive in a spirited fashion than any other 911 owners, cab owners included.
Offering the Targa in AWD sort of legitimizes the Targa top in a way Porsche hasn't done for years. A Turbo Targa would help do that too. That is what I think will increase sales. Let's not forget that the #1 selling 911 in America (Porsches buggest market) is the C4S cab. Seems clever to me to offer a T4S!
May 16, 2006 2:42:06 PM
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1) I don't think of AWD as being useful if you drive hard and on the limit unless the limit you are talking about is one of traction. The GT3 is for driving hard and on the limit and it does not have AWD.
2) I don't think potential Targa owners are any less likely to drive in a spirited fashion than any other 911 owners, cab owners included.
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Let's not forget that the #1 selling 911 in America (Porsches buggest market) is the C4S cab. Seems clever to me to offer a T4S!
You don't like my statements?
... no problem!
@ 1: I didn't say that the car is faster with AWD (although it seems to be the case on the 997 models) but that it is easier to drive on the limit, just as much as PSM. The GT3 offers none of these - see where I'm coming from?
@ 2: The 993 and 996 had the or at least one of the highest shares of automatic equipments in the product range - what does this say?
@ 3: I definately don't belong to the group of C4S Cab /w automatic owners - cause this isn't what a 911 is for in my personal opinion.
Don't get me wrong, to each his own - I don't justify anybodies choices - to a certain extend
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Re: 997 Targa NEWS
this is fantastic news.... But do I order one now or should I wait out for the turbo version.....
Here in Hong Kong the problem is not the bad weather but rather it is too hot and humid to enjoy a convertible. Targa allows the light in and the air con keeps the heat out!
Here in Hong Kong the problem is not the bad weather but rather it is too hot and humid to enjoy a convertible. Targa allows the light in and the air con keeps the heat out!
Look at RC's first post... Forum
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