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    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    ha said:
    I was in "McKabob" this afternoon and two nomads in their 40's were seated on the floor next to me. They were ugly, dirty and obviously stinky.

    They got on the subject of camels and one started to discuss buying a Two Humps. However, he indicated he had concerns because the animal was not perceived as a "true" camel .Also, he has noticed a lot more tourists riding them.

    The other individual responded by agreeing with his concerns and added it did not make sense to buy a One Hump because they all look alike and there appeared to be a ton of them in the desert. They went on to discuss other mammals which I will not mention.

    These guy's are Desert Warriors and if they feel that way where is the camel headed?



    Very good.

    Don't worry Nick, the panamera, if done right will break the porsche mold of the very recent past and open up porsche to a larger audience and great success.

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    nberry said:
    BTW just to set the record straight. I am not a McDonald person.



    Oh, no. Not Hooters!

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    nberry said:
    Oh my, freezing fresh whole bean coffee? I don't think so. You Brit's should stick to tea.

    BTW, serving it in a warm cup is a another fallacy.




    Fresh whole coffee beans are green, Nick.

    I think you mean freshly roasted? Yes, that's best if used immediately after roasting but they start to deteriorate immediately with contact with the air. So unless you plan to use it all up in one go, they should be vacuum sealed.

    When I referred to freezing, I was referring to freezing vacuum sealed bags. It is actually the best way to preserve vacuum seal-packed coffee - check with any expert roaster or coffee importer.

    As for warmed cups, you should have a hot plate on the top of your espresso machine - warmed porcelain cups keep your coffee from cooling too quickly upon contact with the cup - it's nothing to do with taste. Also, warming the cups helps keep the 'crema' (the light brown foam from the coffee itself) from dissolving too quickly.

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    How can someone who has his coffee flown in from a coffee plantation in Hawaii tolerate Starbucks? Either you just can't tell the difference or you're offering up the usual pile of excrement that passes for an 'opinion'.

    Please have some self-respect Nick!

    dangerous narcotics

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    nberry said:
    I have my coffee flown in from Hawaii every month. It is from the Koa coffee plantation their special reserve blend. I "mill" it each morning. BTW, serving it in a warm cup is a another fallacy. A good coffee cup is all that is required. No plastic or synthetic materials.
    Good coffee and good cars go hand to hand. Here is a coffee you should consider. Peets is not in the same league.
    http://www.koacoffee.com/


    nick, koa coffee wanted me to make sure you knew of possible side effects and health concerns associated with coffee for liability reasons!
    i'm a little surprised you take these risks on a regular basis.
    it would seem driving a cgt is a walk in the park compared to regular caffeine consumption.

    -While caffeine can delay the onset of sleep, it also interferes with rapid eye movement (REM) sleep, the stage when dreams occur.
    -Caffeine affects the heart and blood vessels by elevating cholesterol and triglyceride levels.
    -You start taking it slowly, but as your body develops a tolerance to it, you need more and more to feel the same effects
    -like amphetamines or other dangerous narcotics, it increases your heartbeat, breathing, and metabolic rate
    -Caffeine causes increased gastric acid secretion which in turn aggravates peptic ulcers.
    -Heavy coffee drinking doubles the risk of bladder cancer
    -caffeine decreases reaction time to visual and auditory stimuli and does not alter arithmetic skills or short-term memory.
    -it diminishes the performance of manual tasks involving delicate muscular coordination
    -150-300 mg. of caffeine per day during their pregnancy had more than twice the risk of delivering underweight babies
    -When the drug effects wear off it causes irritability, nervousness, headaches, and depression.
    -while it may speed up reaction time and improve automatic processing skills like doing arithmetic problems, it worsens performance of more complicated tasks
    -Within five minutes after you drink your morning coffee, the caffeine begins to stimulate your central nervous system, triggering the release of stress hormones in your body, causing a stress ("fight or flight" ) response
    -The drug continues to have an effect on the body as long as it remains in the blood. The time required to eliminate half of the caffeine consumed - caffeine's half-life - ranges from several hours to several days

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    easy_rider911 said:
    How can someone who has his coffee flown in from a coffee plantation in Hawaii tolerate Starbucks? Either you just can't tell the difference or you're offering up the usual pile of excrement that passes for an 'opinion'.

    Please have some self-respect Nick!



    I order at Starbucks a double expresso Machietto which is nothing more than expresso pour through foam. A nice afternoon kick.

    I have tried using a home expresso machine and it just doesn't taste as good. You need good water pressure to do the job right. I suppose I could pay $3000 for good Italian expresso machine but then I would not have a reason to drive my Ferrari.

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    nberry said:
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    easy_rider911 said:
    How can someone who has his coffee flown in from a coffee plantation in Hawaii tolerate Starbucks? Either you just can't tell the difference or you're offering up the usual pile of excrement that passes for an 'opinion'.

    Please have some self-respect Nick!



    I order at Starbucks a double expresso Machietto which is nothing more than expresso pour through foam. A nice afternoon kick.

    I have tried using a home expresso machine and it just doesn't taste as good. You need good water pressure to do the job right. I suppose I could pay $3000 for good Italian expresso machine but then I would not have a reason to drive my Ferrari.



    so you only use it to drive to Starbucks?
    Oh thats right i forgot, you're not "supposed" to actually drive F cars...

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    nberry said:
    I have tried using a home expresso machine and it just doesn't taste as good. You need good water pressure to do the job right. I suppose I could pay $3000 for good Italian expresso machine but then I would not have a reason to drive my Ferrari.



    So you drive a Ferrari as a substitute for a good Italian espresso machine?

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    sdy284 said:
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    nberry said:
    I order at Starbucks a double expresso Machietto which is nothing more than expresso pour through foam. A nice afternoon kick.

    I have tried using a home expresso machine and it just doesn't taste as good. You need good water pressure to do the job right. I suppose I could pay $3000 for good Italian expresso machine but then I would not have a reason to drive my Ferrari.



    so you only use it to drive to Starbucks?




    Nope. We just established above that it also takes him to Hooters.

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    fritz said:
    Nope. We just established above that it also takes him to Hooters.



    But they're so delightfully tacky...yet refined!

    coffee

    you know what's bad!
    in the middle of my post above about the side effects of caffeine i fell asleep for about an hour and a half!
    better go get another cup!

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    sdy284 said:
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    nberry said:
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    easy_rider911 said:
    How can someone who has his coffee flown in from a coffee plantation in Hawaii tolerate Starbucks? Either you just can't tell the difference or you're offering up the usual pile of excrement that passes for an 'opinion'.

    Please have some self-respect Nick!



    I order at Starbucks a double expresso Machietto which is nothing more than expresso pour through foam. A nice afternoon kick.

    I have tried using a home expresso machine and it just doesn't taste as good. You need good water pressure to do the job right. I suppose I could pay $3000 for good Italian expresso machine but then I would not have a reason to drive my Ferrari.



    so you only use it to drive to Starbucks?
    Oh thats right i forgot, you're not "supposed" to actually drive F cars...




    Since we're talking about Nick, his Ferrari, and Starbucks, I thought it might be time to bring out that classic picture again...

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    i wonder if he paid over MSRP for that premium parking space

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    SoCal Alan said:
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    sdy284 said:
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    nberry said:
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    easy_rider911 said:
    How can someone who has his coffee flown in from a coffee plantation in Hawaii tolerate Starbucks? Either you just can't tell the difference or you're offering up the usual pile of excrement that passes for an 'opinion'.

    Please have some self-respect Nick!



    I order at Starbucks a double expresso Machietto which is nothing more than expresso pour through foam. A nice afternoon kick.

    I have tried using a home expresso machine and it just doesn't taste as good. You need good water pressure to do the job right. I suppose I could pay $3000 for good Italian expresso machine but then I would not have a reason to drive my Ferrari.



    so you only use it to drive to Starbucks?
    Oh thats right i forgot, you're not "supposed" to actually drive F cars...




    Since we're talking about Nick, his Ferrari, and Starbucks, I thought it might be time to bring out that classic picture again...



    Funny story about the picture. There is an ever present street person who lives on the street near the Starbucks. Occasionally when I see him I give $5. So he knows me.

    When I decided to take this picture, I asked him to stand in for me and offered him $20. He refused. Thus, Ben took it with me. After thinking about it, I understood why he turned me down. He will continue to get money from me.

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    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    luke said:
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    JMShrink said:
    I wouldn't be surprised if you almost choked on your chicken McNugget when you overheard this one Nick..



    Brilliant



    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    who is that old bones? next to the f430 nick!? is he ur grand dad!?

    anyway he look like that guy from the movie goodfellas!?

    joe pesci

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    So, what has this become? A worldwide thread to insult Nick? c'mon this is getting beyond all measures!
    I have to agree with Nick; I too noticed that friends of mine who are not that much into cars/porshes as I am, they don't understand the boxster, think it's a ladies car, not a real porsche, etc. And no, they too can't see the difference between a 996 turbo and a 997 one... what does that tell us about those people? That they did not put much effort into porsches. BUT when it comes to attrackting new customers, I think that can be a bad sign. However, the name "porsche" is a very strong brand name. When talking about supercars, people are always talking about porsche and ferrari. So all the dentists and lawyers will still be buying them in the end
    -Joost-

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    Joost said:
    So, what has this become? A worldwide thread to insult Nick? c'mon this is getting beyond all measures!
    I have to agree with Nick; I too noticed that friends of mine who are not that much into cars/porshes as I am, they don't understand the boxster, think it's a ladies car, not a real porsche, etc. And no, they too can't see the difference between a 996 turbo and a 997 one... what does that tell us about those people? That they did not put much effort into porsches. BUT when it comes to attrackting new customers, I think that can be a bad sign. However, the name "porsche" is a very strong brand name. When talking about supercars, people are always talking about porsche and ferrari. So all the dentists and lawyers will still be buying them in the end
    -Joost-


    you're right!

    nick is brilliant and couldnt possibly have a personal agenda.
    he couldnt possibly enjoy the attention he recieves from his comments!
    he never tries to irritate anyone!
    porsche is obviously on the verge of bankruptcy!
    ford builds the boxster so it can't possibly be a real porsche!
    and no self respecting male would be caught dead driving a boxster!

    how could i have been so blind???
    thank you for opening my eyes!!!

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    hehe, Jeff I think you missed my point. I must say Nick annoys me sometimes too, and I don't always agree with what he says and how he says it. But I think There is nothing wrong with staying polite. It is a fact that communication with only written text makes it harder for humans to spot where the humor in someones post is. So let's keep it mild, and not too insulting. Furthermore I tried to react on the topic again, on the contents of Nicks first post in this thread. Hope I made myself more clear this time. Having said this, I must say I had a good chuckle about your reaction
    -Joost-

    PS; Nick, can I get a ride in your F-car?

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    glad you got a chuckle!

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    SoCal Alan said:
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    sdy284 said:
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    nberry said:
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    easy_rider911 said:
    How can someone who has his coffee flown in from a coffee plantation in Hawaii tolerate Starbucks? Either you just can't tell the difference or you're offering up the usual pile of excrement that passes for an 'opinion'.

    Please have some self-respect Nick!



    I order at Starbucks a double expresso Machietto which is nothing more than expresso pour through foam. A nice afternoon kick.

    I have tried using a home expresso machine and it just doesn't taste as good. You need good water pressure to do the job right. I suppose I could pay $3000 for good Italian expresso machine but then I would not have a reason to drive my Ferrari.



    so you only use it to drive to Starbucks?
    Oh thats right i forgot, you're not "supposed" to actually drive F cars...




    Since we're talking about Nick, his Ferrari, and Starbucks, I thought it might be time to bring out that classic picture again...



    Is that Nick?

    David

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    i have to admit ,nick has a point ,wether we like it or not ,there is too many porsches around. and i THINK all of us would agree that we would have preffered to see less porsches on the street ...

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    That's right, but if there were fewer Porsche on the street today, there might be no (new) Porsche on the street at all...

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    dhayek said:
    i have to admit ,nick has a point ,wether we like it or not ,there is too many porsches around. and i THINK all of us would agree that we would have preffered to see less porsches on the street ...


    Nick to me seems to talk out of both sides of mouth: It's doomsday for Porsche, but in the same breath, Porsches are everywhere. Or how about this one, sales are down, yet they are getting less exclusive. I'm actually beginning to feel sorry for the guy..

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    Although I agree that this may be one of the perceptions some potential customers have, I don't see a real problem in it. I'm also a bit surprised to see and hear that in certain countries this "man" and "woman" thing still happens. Yes, there are cars I don't like too much because they look too "feminine" to me, for example the F360 or the Mercedes SLK (the new one even more than the old one, suprisingly). But this doesn't mean I wouldn't buy them ONLY because of this reason. It is the whole package which counts.
    This also reminds me of Corvette Ronny's post regarding his put your money where your mouth is post. Is this something specific to certain cultures, this "I have to prove something to you" thing? Because in MY culture, this actually means that one is impotent and has serious relationship problems.

    Seriously: whowever has such a discussion (Boxster only for women, 911 look to alike, etc.), should drive something else. Because these people will NEVER appreciate or even experience the benefits of a Porsche and this is actually very sad. Even if I hate saying this and I bet that in my past, somebody surely thought the same about me: Money buys a lot of things but it doesn't buy brains, style or good taste. Amen.

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    RC said:... Corvette Ronny's post regarding his put your money where your mouth is post. Is this something specific to certain cultures, this "I have to prove something to you" thing? Because in MY culture, this actually means that one is impotent and has serious relationship problems.



    Yes, RC, the expression "put your money where your mouth is" probably has some unique USA cultural elements. Translated, it means "would you like to place a wager that your prognostications are correct?"

    It is meant as a cautionary challenge to persons who are "all talk and no walk" or "big hat, but no cattle". We some times say "put up or shut up" in the same circumstance.

    Ronnie obviously felt that some posters ("bench racers") were intoxicated with the sounds of their own voices and were in need of a little reminder to that effect.

    We also like to say, "The bull s#!t stops when the green flag drops."

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    JMShrink said:
    It's doomsday for Porsche, but in the same breath, Porsches are everywhere. Or how about this one, sales are down, yet they are getting less exclusive.



    Spot on! I couldn't have said it better myself.

    LOGICALLY you simply can't argue it both ways.

    However, please note Nick is a lawyer (and a litigator at that). Speaking as a lawyer myself, lawyers have a practice of arguing 'mutually exclusive' arguments CONCURRENTLY in the 'hope' that one of them works (i.e. convinces a judge). Non-lawyers find this bizarre. Logically, of course, I agree but arguing like a lawyer isn't logical. It's all about using as many arguments as you can (separately but CUMULATIVELY) even if they CONTRADICT each other (provided they don't ACTUALLY UNDERMINE each other).

    Sorry for all the capital letters etc - they're just to ease interpretation - don't mean to insult anybody's intelligence or prowess in understanding the Queen's English.

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

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    easy_rider911 said:
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    JMShrink said:
    It's doomsday for Porsche, but in the same breath, Porsches are everywhere. Or how about this one, sales are down, yet they are getting less exclusive.



    Spot on! I couldn't have said it better myself.

    LOGICALLY you simply can't argue it both ways.

    However, please note Nick is a lawyer (and a litigator at that). Speaking as a lawyer myself, lawyers have a practice of arguing 'mutually exclusive' arguments CONCURRENTLY in the 'hope' that one of them works (i.e. convinces a judge). Non-lawyers find this bizarre. Logically, of course, I agree but arguing like a lawyer isn't logical. It's all about using as many arguments as you can (separately but CUMULATIVELY) even if they CONTRADICT each other (provided they don't ACTUALLY UNDERMINE each other).

    Sorry for all the capital letters etc - they're just to ease interpretation - don't mean to insult anybody's intelligence or prowess in understanding the Queen's English.


    So in summary, throw it all at the wall and see what sticks!

    Re: The issue may be bigger than Porsche thinks.

    Brutal American reductionism but essentially correct! Have a great weekend.

     
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