Feb 28, 2017 5:14:28 PM
- Targa Tim
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Feb 28, 2017 5:14:28 PM
Feb 28, 2017 11:39:22 PM
martini964:no its Gastrimargus musicus
Well...at least I got the yellow in the name right.
Learned something new too, never heard of that yellow winged grasshopper.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Lars997:It is a good looking car - no doubt about it. Would I pay the current market asked price - never ever!
good looking like any other 911 out there
the price is meant for a collector or really rich person to pay, not for regular end users like us
Tim
2010 997.2 GT3RS; 2008 Cayenne Turbo; 2006 911 Club Coupe; 2016 911 GTS Club Coupe; 2015 Macan S
Targa Tim:Lars997:It is a good looking car - no doubt about it. Would I pay the current market asked price - never ever!
good looking like any other 911 out there
the price is meant for a collector or really rich person to pay, not for regular end users like us
Thank you Targa - Didn't want to say it. It looks like a 991. Shouldn't be too difficult to get those rims and bumper/front fender for it
Lars997:Targa Tim:Lars997:It is a good looking car - no doubt about it. Would I pay the current market asked price - never ever!
good looking like any other 911 out there
the price is meant for a collector or really rich person to pay, not for regular end users like us
Thank you Targa - Didn't want to say it. It looks like a 991. Shouldn't be too difficult to get those rims and bumper/front fender for it
well, joking aside, the attraction of 911R is its NA 500hp engine paired with 6 speed manual. Their original owners actually did not pay crazy money for one. Its low key look is actually a bonus as they can drive it anywhere over their other exotic cars.
it is those flippers and second owners that I do not understand, as I do not see the uniqueness of this car to pay so much extra money for one.
Tim
2010 997.2 GT3RS; 2008 Cayenne Turbo; 2006 911 Club Coupe; 2016 911 GTS Club Coupe; 2015 Macan S
Mar 9, 2017 2:57:23 AM
Targa Tim:Lars997:It is a good looking car - no doubt about it. Would I pay the current market asked price - never ever!
the price is meant for a collector or really rich person to pay, not for regular end users like us
We are not regular end user , but agree, I myself never ever pay that price.
Nico997:
That is the car I saw a few weeks back and was not allowed to take pictures off .
It is original from the factory like this . On one side the rims are blue, on the other side they are red . The owner is the guy who sold that very nice Porsche collection we talked about last month .
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991 GT3 RS
BjoernB:Now looking at the latest GT3 somehow the R all of a sudden feels very dated....
The 991 R was never supposed to be the latest "thing", just a limited edition model which will make a lot of people happy (those who want to enjoy it and those who make big money out of it).
As a weekend toy, the GT3 makes more sense anyway. Just saying...
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
BiTurbo:911 R was Porsche's lego test car and wanted to see how will people react to the manual. I hope the competition realizes that there's a market for the manual
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that the competition can't wait to build slower cars.
The GT3 is an exception, some Porsche customers seem to want manual for nostalgic reasons or whatever and Porsche decided that they can make money with it. Especially since the manual actually costs them less than the PDK, even with the lower production figures.
I doubt Ferrari, McLaren or Lamborghini will ever build a manual car again, it doesn't make any sense for a small percentage of customers who would probably want one.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
The competition will always use the dual-clutch car when it comes to lap times and keyboard warriors, they've already done their homework
The manual still exists in the 911 lineup, what seems to be the problem if the competition comes out with one model with an entry level introduced with a manual and an optional dual-clutch it's not like the whole factory will collapse because of 3 pedals, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia or for old times sake.
The dual-clutch gives you driving pleasure only at full throttle and the only other advantage it has over the manual, whenever you're stuck in traffic going through your mobile apps
I find it very boring on daily drives, inside the city and the highway (Ferrari's jerky DCT doesn't like being driven slowly) the only way I could cope with dual-clutch is during midnight, when everyone is off to bed and open roads from Saturday ~ Wednesday.
BiTurbo:The competition will always use the dual-clutch car when it comes to lap times and keyboard warriors, they've already done their homework
The manual still exists in the 911 lineup, what seems to be the problem if the competition comes out with one model with an entry level introduced with a manual and an optional dual-clutch it's not like the whole factory will collapse because of 3 pedals, and it has nothing to do with nostalgia or for old times sake.
The dual-clutch gives you driving pleasure only at full throttle and the only other advantage it has over the manual, whenever you're stuck in traffic going through your mobile apps
I find it very boring on daily drives, inside the city and the highway (Ferrari's jerky DCT doesn't like being driven slowly) the only way I could cope with dual-clutch is during midnight, when everyone is off to bed and open roads from Saturday ~ Wednesday.
Not really. It depends on the DCT system and it's speed. I always felt annoyed with the PDK on my former 997.2 GTS and even on my 991.2 GTS. The DCT on my R8 is a completely different story: First DCT I use only in manual mode and I really enjoy it. Had that GT500 with manual for a year but the manual shifting with clutch didn't give me any additional pleasure but it also wasn't annoying (probably because I was never really stuck in traffic for hours ).
If people enjoy their manual, thats fine with me but modern DCT systems can be fun as well.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
Integra:'991.2 GTS'
are you sure it's a .2 ?
Of course not...991.1 GTS, sorry...too many .1 and .2 to think about.
Not that the 991.2 PDK is much better though.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet (2015), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)
RC:Not really. It depends on the DCT system and it's speed. I always felt annoyed with the PDK on my former 997.2 GTS and even on my 991.2 GTS. The DCT on my R8 is a completely different story: First DCT I use only in manual mode and I really enjoy it. Had that GT500 with manual for a year but the manual shifting with clutch didn't give me any additional pleasure but it also wasn't annoying (probably because I was never really stuck in traffic for hours ).
If people enjoy their manual, thats fine with me but modern DCT systems can be fun as well.
Not even comparable or close to Porsche's manual precise shifting