My track is at least two hours one way and events are very few and far between. Additionally, to participate for a day event is around $1000 for insurance with a huge deductible and a cap on collision damage.
However, there are autocross events in parking lots which enable you to get up to 4000rpm's as you go around cones. I would be better off in a Miata than a GT3.
Of little, to make much: That is the dream of a human life.
My nearest track is 2.5 hours away. Others I go to 5 to 6 hours. We have none in Switzerland. I do not insure my car for track. Costs are ridiculous. I am just cautious. I have been now for 10 years and never had a damage.
where there is a will there is a way.
Otherise , the new Miata is probably the most fun car one can have for low speed limited roads !!
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Gnil:My nearest track is 2.5 hours away. Others I go to 5 to 6 hours. We have none in Switzerland. I do not insure my car for track. Costs are ridiculous. I am just cautious. I have been now for 10 years and never had a damage.
where there is a will there is a way.
Otherise , the new Miata is probably the most fun car one can have for low speed limited roads !!
FWIW,on the track it's not my driving I am concerned about. It's the other drivers.
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Of little, to make much: That is the dream of a human life.
Mar 6, 2016 1:02:07 PM
Carlos from Spain:A bonus of being in forums like this that have so much inside info before others which let's you put your name down for cars that even your dealer may not even know it's coming.
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nberry:Gnil:My nearest track is 2.5 hours away. Others I go to 5 to 6 hours. We have none in Switzerland. I do not insure my car for track. Costs are ridiculous. I am just cautious. I have been now for 10 years and never had a damage.
where there is a will there is a way.
Otherise , the new Miata is probably the most fun car one can have for low speed limited roads !!
FWIW,on the track it's not my driving I am concerned about. It's the other drivers.
Very true. I know a guy in my town who went to court because of a damage he got by another driver on the track. That driver refuses to pay up (he wasn't insured either, only road insurance) because he claims that this guy I know didn't drive a "clean" line when he passed him. There are even videos of this but the lawsuit is going on and on and on because neither side wants to back down (damage is over 20k EUR for my guy and almost 15k for the other one) and the experts don't seem to find a common ground either. Lawyers are the only ones happy with this...I guess.
Oh, a friend of mine just drove sideways into the gravel at a track a few years ago and his damage was over 6k EUR just because of the rims and paint. Ouch.
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nberry:Gnil:My nearest track is 2.5 hours away. Others I go to 5 to 6 hours. We have none in Switzerland. I do not insure my car for track. Costs are ridiculous. I am just cautious. I have been now for 10 years and never had a damage.
where there is a will there is a way.
Otherise , the new Miata is probably the most fun car one can have for low speed limited roads !!
FWIW,on the track it's not my driving I am concerned about. It's the other drivers.
This is a much larger concern on public roads than on track events.
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bluelines:nberry:Gnil:My nearest track is 2.5 hours away. Others I go to 5 to 6 hours. We have none in Switzerland. I do not insure my car for track. Costs are ridiculous. I am just cautious. I have been now for 10 years and never had a damage.
where there is a will there is a way.
Otherise , the new Miata is probably the most fun car one can have for low speed limited roads !!
FWIW,on the track it's not my driving I am concerned about. It's the other drivers.
This is a much larger concern on public roads than on track events.
Indeed but on public roads, you have insurance.
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fritz:hunterone:Ill get on the list for the GT2RS. Next week im at the dealer and i sign the pre-contact.
Too late. Limited series. Sold out.
2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
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Gnil:My nearest track is 2.5 hours away. Others I go to 5 to 6 hours. We have none in Switzerland. I do not insure my car for track. Costs are ridiculous. I am just cautious. I have been now for 10 years and never had a damage.
where there is a will there is a way.
Otherise , the new Miata is probably the most fun car one can have for low speed limited roads !!
I would never ever drive a car on track without insurance. Also when driving race cars on track days or during actual races Inhave them insured to a certain amount with a deductable of EUR 10k. I have experienced the worst case scenario by myself and seen numerious cases which ended in tears i.e. oil spills, t-boned by others or a mechanical defects causing offs.
Mike
M3ike:I would never ever drive a car on track without insurance. Also when driving race cars on track days or during actual races Inhave them insured to a certain amount with a deductable of EUR 10k. I have experienced the worst case scenario by myself and seen numerious cases which ended in tears i.e. oil spills, t-boned by others or a mechanical defects causing offs.
Mike
This is why Porsche Euro Delivery is such an incredible bargain - full insurance included (for 16 days free, longer for additional modest cost) and it includes accidents on race tracks (as long as not actual sanctioned race) with only EUR 1k deductible. Never found a deal like that...
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fritz:hunterone:Ill get on the list for the GT2RS. Next week im at the dealer and i sign the pre-contact.
Too late. Limited series. Sold out.
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Grant:This is why Porsche Euro Delivery is such an incredible bargain - full insurance included (for 16 days free, longer for additional modest cost) and it includes accidents on race tracks (as long as not actual sanctioned race) with only EUR 1k deductible. Never found a deal like that...
I'm gonna move to the US...
If I wanna pickup a car in Stuttgart: First I have to pay to do it, and then I have to drive it back home... Totally sucks.
Kobalt:Grant:This is why Porsche Euro Delivery is such an incredible bargain - full insurance included (for 16 days free, longer for additional modest cost) and it includes accidents on race tracks (as long as not actual sanctioned race) with only EUR 1k deductible. Never found a deal like that...
I'm gonna move to the US...
If I wanna pickup a car in Stuttgart: First I have to pay to do it, and then I have to drive it back home... Totally sucks.
Well, this is actually a part of the fun but paying for pickup? Not so much. Well, at least you "save" delivery cost (around 1000 EUR at German dealers).
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pmarkow:i thought i am number 1 on my dealer's list but it turns out i am number 2 :::)))) he claims no problem since he got two GT3RS 4.0 and two GT2RS 997, so i hope he is right.....
peter
Must be a big dealer, as there were only 500 worldwide for the 997 2RS -
16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
FWIW, my dealer got a total of 6 GT3 RS and mine was the first to arrive in June, the later ones started drifting from September onwards. I know all the other guys who got lucky with their GT3 RS allocations, it is the same track oriented crowd that will be competing for slots for the GT2 RS (if it really does happen) and whatever new top of the line GT model will come along in future...friendly competiton, but competition it is...
Grant:pmarkow:i thought i am number 1 on my dealer's list but it turns out i am number 2 :::)))) he claims no problem since he got two GT3RS 4.0 and two GT2RS 997, so i hope he is right.....
peter
Must be a big dealer, as there were only 500 worldwide for the 997 2RS -
isn't really a large dealer, second in vienna only.....
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Mar 11, 2016 12:13:11 PM
This could already be the next generation under the body of the current one...difficult to say.
The missing vent wouldn't be a problem, it could still be a GT2 RS test mule.
Judging by the license plate (don't ask), I think this is the next gen though.
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olli:Christrian, I agree with you, but to the extent some 992 tech may already be used for a possible GT2 RS, they may be testing it for both.
Everything in this regard is possible, I haven't seen this car yet, so it is impossible to tell.
I love the exhaust pipes though...
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olli:Don't torture me... I signed a pre-contract and want to know as much as possible...will it be worth trading in my 991 GT3 RS for this (plus the substantial price premium)?
well, since it will be a limited edition car i shall go for it if i get one (number 2 on dealer's list) and sell my RS for it. that said i am rather sure that the GT3RS is more exploitable and fun on the road than the GT2RS will be. on track, when lap times count, surely the GT2RS will rule.
it will be very interesting to see the 488 GTO - GT2RS shoot-out!!!!!
peter