BjoernB:being different is a good thing these days ! I absolutely love the decals from Porsche and we will try both on the upcoming GT4
2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM
bluelines:But you also seem unusually sensitive for what other people think and say about a person. I don't think we all tick like this.
Personally, I do not care and I do not participate in any of these discussions/gossip because I respect choices and de gustibus non disputandum est. This is stuff I discuss, if I discuss it, with my wife only.
I get it, you got me on your radar but don't worry, I couldn't care less other than that I have to react your remarks for the sake of entertaining this forum.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
BjoernB:being different is a good thing these days ! I absolutely love the decals from Porsche and we will try both on the upcoming GT4
Well, they make the car faster, don't they?!
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
23-feb-2016 11.32.32
25-feb-2016 7.57.00
So, based on input from Kreso and stuff I had heard previously, in a nutshell the new line-up of the 991.2 GT generation could unfold as follows:
991.2 GT3 with both PDK and MT (leveraging 911R development), NA, close to 991.1 GT3 RS in power and performance, road legal equivalent of NA GT3 R
991.2 GT2 RS, (probaby limited) "special" edition earmarked for "top P clients", very expensive, 2017 turbo-charged road legal equivalent of 2017 turbo-charged 911 RSR
olli:So, based on input from Kreso and stuff I had heard previously, in a nutshell the new line-up of the 991.2 GT generation could unfold as follows:
991.2 GT3 with both PDK and MT (leveraging 911R development), NA, close to 991.1 GT3 RS in power and performance, road legal equivalent of NA GT3 R
991.2 GT2 RS, (probaby limited) "special" edition earmarked for "top P clients", very expensive, 2017 turbo-charged road legal equivalent of 2017 turbo-charged 911 RSR
No GT3 RS?
997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS
LP997:olli:So, based on input from Kreso and stuff I had heard previously, in a nutshell the new line-up of the 991.2 GT generation could unfold as follows:
991.2 GT3 with both PDK and MT (leveraging 911R development), NA, close to 991.1 GT3 RS in power and performance, road legal equivalent of NA GT3 R
991.2 GT2 RS, (probaby limited) "special" edition earmarked for "top P clients", very expensive, 2017 turbo-charged road legal equivalent of 2017 turbo-charged 911 RSR
No GT3 RS?
hopefully not:::)))) unless for those who don't have a 991.1 gt3rs...))
pmarkow:LP997:olli:So, based on input from Kreso and stuff I had heard previously, in a nutshell the new line-up of the 991.2 GT generation could unfold as follows:
991.2 GT3 with both PDK and MT (leveraging 911R development), NA, close to 991.1 GT3 RS in power and performance, road legal equivalent of NA GT3 R
991.2 GT2 RS, (probaby limited) "special" edition earmarked for "top P clients", very expensive, 2017 turbo-charged road legal equivalent of 2017 turbo-charged 911 RSR
No GT3 RS?
hopefully not:::)))) unless for those who don't have a 991.1 gt3rs...))
:) me too i hope not
997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS
LP997:olli:So, based on input from Kreso and stuff I had heard previously, in a nutshell the new line-up of the 991.2 GT generation could unfold as follows:
991.2 GT3 with both PDK and MT (leveraging 911R development), NA, close to 991.1 GT3 RS in power and performance, road legal equivalent of NA GT3 R
991.2 GT2 RS, (probaby limited) "special" edition earmarked for "top P clients", very expensive, 2017 turbo-charged road legal equivalent of 2017 turbo-charged 911 RSR
No GT3 RS?
Only GT4 RS for race homologation since GT3 RS is no longer required to fulfill this need with the shift to mid-engined race cars
The higher spec 991.2 GT3 leaves space for a higher spec 991.2 GTS using the same N/A engine (the 991.1 R will show the way).
2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM
The 991.2 GTS gets a turbo charged engine...
The 911 R is staying unique I'm afraid (good for buyers).
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
25-feb-2016 16.39.38
25-feb-2016 16.43.14
Super Darius:RC
So,we are "sure" that the 991 Gt3 RS mk1 is the last N/A RS,and the next RS will be a GT2?
if is right,it seems a really good news for us.
That would indeed be good for us .
The last of it s kind ... That s much better then the first of it s kind
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964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991 GT3 RS
25-feb-2016 17.02.29
Super Darius:RC
So,we are "sure" that the 991 Gt3 RS mk1 is the last N/A RS,and the next RS will be a GT2?
Right now it seems that way. The GT2 could be a GT2 "only" but I doubt it. There is too much tech, power and development work involved to make it a GT2 only. So many rumors going on right now, difficult to say.
if is right,it seems a really good news for us.
True. However, there will be a 991.2 GT3 according to rumors and this car won't be slow.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
SciFrog:Unless they basically make the 991.2 GT3 really as, as good as a 991.2 GT3 RS would be... And as fast...
Seems like it will be very close for much less money (unless big price bump).
16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
SciFrog:Surely a price bump, the GT3 and GT4 are the best deals in Porsche portfolio and they know it...
The GT cars have always delivered the best value and resale. I hope they won't change this. Raising the price is a bad idea (especially with a softer economy), imo. I think it's smart to have a group of cars that are in high demand (but not impossible to buy with a little effort).
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16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
SciFrog:Unless they basically make the 991.2 GT3 really as, as good as a 991.2 GT3 RS would be... And as fast...
sorry but not the RS badge...not the same for me...RS is special brand and i want this badge not just the GT3 :) i keep my last N/A and hope the R :)
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997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS
SciFrog:In the end what matters is intrinsic quality of the car and production number.
Hopefully more the former and less the latter...
16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
26-feb-2016 6.05.04
RC:
True. However, there will be a 991.2 GT3 according to rumors and this car won't be slow.
Sure will be fast,but also if is faster than the current RS will be not a RS,and this one is the last N/A GT3 RS.I think is a good thing.
finger crossed!
997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS
26-feb-2016 8.27.57
+1 - the most Logical for me would be to stop the GT3 Name and call it GT2 - use a Turbo engine that is setting the bar significantly higher than the last NA engine can - if they would bring "another" 4.0 with 495hp or so it would be very close to the RS (smaller front less aero) and since the competition has moved the game on on the torque side - how can you be competitive for another 3 years or so with such a product ? I strongly believe they should bring a 500HP beast with tremendous torque and all their Chassis Magic and we would have a true GT3 successor.
Saying its a good thing is a rather short term view - its good in that you own one now so it may well make your current car worth more, but come the time when you are ready to sell and want the latest RS you wont see it as a good thing that NA GT3RS are no more!
I own a V12Vantage which is the last of a breed - 6ltr V12, NA, Manual. Good for its value which is now starting to rise, but I see it as a bad thing because I can't replace it like for like with a new car.
Aston Martin V12 Vantage, Morning Frost White, Buckets, Manual
Cayman GT4, Racing Yellow, PCCB, 918 Style Full Buckets