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    Feb 5, 2016 10:15:41 AM

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    crayphile:

    And people complain that the FF is ugly!

    The car in the photo is heavily camouflaged, relax. Smiley


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    Feb 5, 2016 10:16:49 AM

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    993Targa:

    Love it, a poor man's FF Smiley

     


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    Feb 5, 2016 10:31:51 AM

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    Just joking, was referring to the comments about the FF.


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    Feb 5, 2016 2:41:42 PM

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    993Targa:

    Love it, a poor man's FF Smiley

    But with 4 doors Smiley

    Feb 5, 2016 2:59:15 PM

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    And a much much more boring drive...

    Feb 5, 2016 4:03:30 PM

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    And a much much more boring drive...

    Very likely. Smiley


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    Feb 5, 2016 4:26:29 PM

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    SciFrog:

    And a much much more boring drive...

    Indeed. As you and I have both said before - the FF is in a category all of its own.

    Feb 5, 2016 4:36:24 PM

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    The FF doesn't really qualify as a 4 seater, the Panamera obviously does. I would love to have this to replace my Cayenne:


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    Feb 5, 2016 4:54:44 PM

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    993Targa:

    I would love to have this to replace my Cayenne:

    Looks like a stretched Macan Smiley 

     


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    Feb 5, 2016 5:00:13 PM

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    Panamera Concept should be put into product 100% accurate. That's probably the best the Panamera will ever look.

    Feb 5, 2016 5:00:33 PM

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    Looks like a stretched Macan Smiley 

    It is!


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    Feb 5, 2016 5:46:36 PM

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    noone1:

    Panamera Concept should be put into product 100% accurate. That's probably the best the Panamera will ever look.

    looking forward to it kiss


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    Feb 5, 2016 6:17:21 PM

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    Only owners of FF and 612 understand what the FF really is...

    Feb 5, 2016 7:41:33 PM

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    SciFrog:

    Only owners of FF and 612 understand what the FF really is...

    I wonder how all of us non astronaut people ever understood the moon landing...

    But yes, it's certainly a polarizing car. 

    Feb 5, 2016 8:02:07 PM

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    Enmanuel:
    SciFrog:

    Only owners of FF and 612 understand what the FF really is...

    I wonder how all of us non astronaut people ever understood the moon landing...

    Smiley Smiley


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    Feb 9, 2016 4:33:06 AM

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    Camo'd obviously, but the Panamera will always be ugly. Just make a fucking wagon and call it a day. I'd rather have a good looking wagon than an ugly hatch sedan thing.

    +100% A nice wagon could be great. This thing has still no nice lines and simply doesn't work. 


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    Feb 9, 2016 7:51:54 AM

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    Enmanuel:

     

    I wonder how all of us non astronaut people ever understood the moon landing...

     

    indecision


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    Feb 10, 2016 2:15:54 PM

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    More pics's of the Sport Touring test car.

    Sport Touring 2.JPG

    http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1102226_2017-porsche-panamera-shooting-brake-spy-shots

     

    Feb 10, 2016 3:40:28 PM

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    I guess this will be Porsche's answer to the FF.

    A Panamera in reality is not much bigger than the FF, about 100mm longer, 20mm narrow and 40mm taller. But on profile and basically any angle, it looks much bigger than the Ferrari.

     


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    Feb 10, 2016 11:52:00 PM

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    I guess this will be Porsche's answer to the FF.

    A Panamera in reality is not much bigger than the FF, about 100mm longer, 20mm narrow and 40mm taller. But on profile and basically any angle, it looks much bigger than the Ferrari.

     

    Any idea about how many seats at the rear - three I hope?

    Feb 11, 2016 12:50:54 AM

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    I have spent considerable time viewing the concept "shooting brake" in person and think it is a hopeless aberration.  Over my 50 years of owning and covering Porsches, I dislike it the most, followed by the first generation Cayenne.  And if the mule in the pics above goes into production in any similar design, it will top the list of the worst Porsche design IMHO. 

    Reminds me somehow of the old XKE Jag--all nose wth a ridiculous bulb of a cabin...

    Feb 11, 2016 1:08:02 AM

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    Whoopsy:

    I guess this will be Porsche's answer to the FF.

    A Panamera in reality is not much bigger than the FF, about 100mm longer, 20mm narrow and 40mm taller. But on profile and basically any angle, it looks much bigger than the Ferrari.

     

    Any idea about how many seats at the rear - three I hope?

     

    I was assured that by many quite a while ago.


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    Feb 18, 2016 7:44:09 AM

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    Clay modell of the forthcoming Panamera Sport Turismo:

    pana_clay_2.jpgpana_clay_3.jpgpana_clay_1.jpg


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    Feb 18, 2016 7:45:02 AM

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    Some more details:

    pana_clay_6.jpgpana_clay_4.jpgpana_clay_5.jpg


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    Feb 18, 2016 7:46:19 AM

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    And some of the interior:

    pana_clay_9.jpg1455781573468pana_clay_8.jpgpana_clay_10.jpg


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    Feb 18, 2016 9:04:32 AM

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    Looks like at flatter, longer and wider Macan...and the proportions seem to work much better than on both the current and new standard Panamera.

    Feb 18, 2016 2:17:12 PM

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    Totally looks like a flattened Macan. They better change it somewhat or it will look outdated even before it comes out. Plus if they think they can charge 50% more than a Macan with the same design they better think again...

    On the plus side, FINALLY no more gear stick Smiley. But that center console looks very high and reduces space...

    Feb 18, 2016 2:25:45 PM

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    Oh my. Completely forgot about this car, maybe my 'Sneak Peek" next week is not about the 911R but this thing 


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    Feb 18, 2016 4:29:26 PM

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    Panamera sport turismo makes sense to me.

    I like everything about my ex-Panamera except the tiny trunk space.


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    Feb 19, 2016 12:20:18 AM

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    I love how it looks. hopefully this makes it as is into production. 

     
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