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    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    rickman:
    LP997:
    RC:

    900-1000? Cela signifie qu'ils ont soulevé nombre de production. Un peu trop à mon avis, à moins qu'ils ne font la voiture moins cher (mais je doute fortement). Voyons voir si elle obtient le feu vert (ont pas encore entendu quelque chose de nouveau).

    Spécial? Eh bien, de nombreuses régions GT3 RS, moteur RS GT3 (peut-être 3,8 GT3 mais j'entendu 4.0), beaucoup de pièces légères, châssis GT3 et du système de freinage PCCB (peut être en option), pour moi cette voiture sonne déjà très spécial si vous me demandez .

    Yes special for sur and like i said body panel in Carbon and the 4.0 RS, very light...But the number of 900-1000 never heard that like i said 500-600 worldwide cars...

    What does-It mean very light ? The 997 gt3 RS 4.0 is 1360 as it's best !

    The 911 R is rumored to be lighter than the GT3 and GT3 RS, thus the lightest 911 in the current 911 generation.

    Don't expect anything spectacular though, I heard something about 30-50 kg lighter than the RS. At max.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Apparently 911 units will be produced?


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    WAY:

    Apparently 911 units will be produced?

    I still heard around 600 today but no green light confirmation yet.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    I do not feel well this story. Especially as the market begins to show signs of fatigue ... Heavier than a 977 GT3 RS 4.0, not necessarily more power than 500 hp for 991 RS owners may be angry, with a higher cost ... all this seems a big marketing effect by acting on the presumption the last aspirated engine ?

     

     


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    RC:
    WAY:

    Apparently 911 units will be produced?

    I still heard around 600 today but no green light confirmation yet.

      991 


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    rickman:

    I do not feel well this story. Especially as the market begins to show signs of fatigue ... Heavier than a 977 GT3 RS 4.0, not necessarily more power than 500 hp for 991 RS owners may be angry, with a higher cost ... all this seems a big marketing effect by acting on the presumption the last aspirated engine ?

    The 911 R will not be a track car per se, more a very special 911 for people who are looking for something different and rare. So I do not think that GT3 RS owners would be mad if this car gets more than 500 hp but technically, it won't be possible, even with the RS 4.0 engine because of the thermodynamical issues (car is missing the side vents of the RS). 

    The last power figure I heard was somewhere between 475 and 490 hp.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Porsche had already sent me a NDA to sign of the sneak peek, which is not happening till the 28th.

    They are taking secrecy very seriously this time.

     


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    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Whoopsy:

    Porsche had already sent me a NDA to sign of the sneak peek, which is not happening till the 28th.

    They are taking secrecy very seriously this time.

    Thanks god I have nothing to sign... (yet). Smiley

    You need to be careful, they take that NDA stuff pretty seriously but don't worry, someone here or somewhere else will surely leak everything we need to know afterwards. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    I prefer to have a slot that NDA indecision


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Here is what I heard through the grapevine yesterday:

    1. the 911 R will be shown in Geneva, it will be a limited edition, but 918 owners will not have any priority in terms of getting one.

    2. there will be a second, even more limited edition, variant to be offered to 918 owners and possibly a few others; details on this variant are still very sketchy. 


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    olli:

    Here is what I heard through the grapevine yesterday:

    1. the 911 R will be shown in Geneva, it will be a limited edition, but 918 owners will not have any priority in terms of getting one.

    2. there will be a second, even more limited edition, variant to be offered to 918 owners and possibly a few others; details on this variant are still very sketchy. 

    The second limited edition is supposed to be based on the 991 gt3 RS ?


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    it's the "cup edition" based on the GT3 RS


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    997 GT3 RS 3.6 - 964 RS - 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    They realized that market niche is a source of money...


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Enzo II:

    They realized that market niche is a source of money...

    Ain't that the truth.


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Latest rumor on Rennlist:

    911R
    -white or silver (no PTS even if you're god himself)
    -red or green center stripe
    -black or saddle brown interior
    -carbon panels.
    -massive weight reduction efforts
    -underbody aero


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Only two colors? Really? LOL


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    SciFrog:

    Only two colors? Really? LOL

    I think that's twice as many colors as you could choose with the original (all white from factory, afaik):

    Porsche-911R-1967.jpg


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    no blue?  looks like I can save some money indecision


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    Tim

    2010 997.2 GT3RS;  2008 Cayenne Turbo;  2006 911 Club Coupe;  2016 911 GTS Club Coupe;  2015 Macan S
     


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    they should  all be white with green/red graphics...no options , no exception , period 

    there should only have been 50 ( that's the reason its nomenclature even exists )  for the world , no more ...done. no exception, no evolution  model ... , but every company is milking the gullible with " special " cars that will be" collectible "  from Porsche , Ferrari, McLaren , hi-po Camaros, last Vipers, etc.etc.  ...check back here in 25 years for the accuracy of these " expert " self promoting marketing ( car company pr people ) and insurance industry ( Hagerty -stated value insurance policy seller  ) predictions for each model mentioned ......so most will never be driven from new ...even a GT350R version of the universal airport rental car known as " Mustang " 


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    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    MKW:

    they should  all be white with green/red graphics...no options , no exception , period 

     

    I could live with that Smiley 

    But, I'd be tempted to get Silver with Red trim (always like this combo).


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Limited edition....I predict the price will be $225,000+, remember the 997 Sport Classic!


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Grant:
    SciFrog:

    Only two colors? Really? LOL

    I think that's twice as many colors as you could choose with the original (all white from factory, afaik):
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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    Actually the original 1967 R were not all white, this was the color split :

    1455297603944Capture.JPG

     

     

     


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Interesting - I've seen other colors, but thought they were painted after purchase.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Grant:

    Interesting - I've seen other colors, but thought they were painted after purchase.

    The 4 prototype 911 R were in those colors :  Ivory White , Feuerrot , Blutorange and Zitronegelb. The production R were painted mostly in Ivory White (17) and 3 were painted in Slate Grey, Cadillac Gold and Reventlon Blue (which was the last built and the only pure street version rumored to have been delivered with a 2.2 S engine and not the 4 cam). By the way the R3 (prototype n3 - the Blutorange car) won the Marathone de la Route in 1967 driven by Vic Elford and it was a Sportomatic !! So much for everyone wishing for a manual R . Funny.


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    964C2:

    Limited edition....I predict the price will be $225,000+, remember the 997 Sport Classic!

     

    Consider how much the 991s are going, $225k would be a bargain!


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    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Whoopsy:
    964C2:

    Limited edition....I predict the price will be $225,000+, remember the 997 Sport Classic!

     

    Consider how much the 991s are going, $225k would be a bargain!

    more, I think


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    m4ever:
    ... the only pure street version rumored to have been delivered with a 2.2 S engine and not the 4 cam). By the way the R3 (prototype n3 - the Blutorange car) won the Marathone de la Route in 1967 driven by Vic Elford and it was a Sportomatic !! So much for everyone wishing for a manual R . Funny.

    Don't think any of them were 4-cam.  Racing 4-cylinder Porsches (Carrera, 550, 718, etc.) had 4-cam, but think all the air-cooled 6-cyl were 2-cam (with possible exception of prototype or experimental).  I think the 959 was first 4-cam 911 and had water-cooled heads.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Grant:
    m4ever:
    ... the only pure street version rumored to have been delivered with a 2.2 S engine and not the 4 cam). By the way the R3 (prototype n3 - the Blutorange car) won the Marathone de la Route in 1967 driven by Vic Elford and it was a Sportomatic !! So much for everyone wishing for a manual R . Funny.

    Don't think any of them were 4-cam.  Racing 4-cylinder Porsches (Carrera) had 4-cam, but think all the air-cooled 6-cyl were 2-cam (with possible exception of prototype or experimental).  I think the 959 was first 4-cam 911 and had water-cooled heads.
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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

         Ops correct - I mistyped that. I meant the two litres Carrera 6 engine


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Ok, yeah most were 2.0L making 210hp.  Were they all carburetor based or were any mechanically injected (like 906E)?


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: 911 R Thema geschlossen

    Almost all of them were triple throat carburetors (Weber 46) but on one, the n.17, was installed a 4 cam engine with slide valve injection from the 916 engine (that is why I mistyped my reply before, actually one R had indeed the 4 cam). This was the car that won the Tour de France in 1969.


     
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