the rear window design has less of the downward sloping tear drop than the last round of lightly camo'd shots?
2013 Lotus Evora S/ 2008 Cayenne GTS Manual
2012 991 C2S -PDK / 2010 997.2 turbo cab manual, sold //2008 RS 60 sold /04 C4S sold - 08 Cayenne Turbo PDCC sold
Jan 13, 2016 7:04:05 AM
Automakers are already showing 2017 models at this point in the year for release/availability later in the year, so I think the Panamera isn't too far off. Also, then-CEO Matthias Müller told IndianAutosBlog on September 25th, 2015 that "you'll see the car in Geneva" when asked about the second-generation Panamera.
However... Seeing that the 718 Boxster is just around the corner and we've already seen some development reports by auto journalists about it but haven't heard a peep about the Panamera makes me think otherwise. Wouldn't make sense to debut both the Panamera and the 718 Boxster in Geneva since the spotlight shouldn't have to be shared by two major debuts, unless one will be shown before the other. Any thoughts?
rulesdontapply
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2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
2012 Porsche Cayenne S [gone but never forgotten]
RS 991:Hey guys, any information when the new Panamera will be revealed? Rumours say either Geneva or Paris.
This year? March 2016? Not very likely but possible.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Not sure my memory is correct, but I don't think Porsche has debuted a Boxster (open air) model before in Geneva. Not a great fit in a winter context.
Panamera may be released in Shanghai, however, as China was Porsche's biggest market in 2015.
But if not a Panamera, what will debut? The 911R is too exclusive and limited for a major show, IMHO.
I will be in Geneva for press days, so hoping for something new.
Wonderbar:Not sure my memory is correct, but I don't think Porsche has debuted a Boxster (open air) model before in Geneva. Not a great fit in a winter context.
Panamera may be released in Shanghai, however, as China was Porsche's biggest market in 2015.
But if not a Panamera, what will debut? The 911R is too exclusive and limited for a major show, IMHO.
I will be in Geneva for press days, so hoping for something new.
Porsche has arranged us to visit the show on March 1st in the afternoon, maybe we might run into each other :)
Jan 13, 2016 5:26:43 PM
rulesdontapply:Automakers are already showing 2017 models at this point in the year for release/availability later in the year, so I think the Panamera isn't too far off. Also, then-CEO Matthias Müller told IndianAutosBlog on September 25th, 2015 that "you'll see the car in Geneva" when asked about the second-generation Panamera.
However... Seeing that the 718 Boxster is just around the corner and we've already seen some development reports by auto journalists about it but haven't heard a peep about the Panamera makes me think otherwise. Wouldn't make sense to debut both the Panamera and the 718 Boxster in Geneva since the spotlight shouldn't have to be shared by two major debuts, unless one will be shown before the other. Any thoughts?
rulesdontapply
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2008 Porsche Boxster S PDE2
2012 Porsche Cayenne S [gone but never forgotten]
These were my thoughts as well. Porsche would not show two major highlights on one show (I know the Boxster gets "just" a facelift, but with turbo engines,so...). The Panamera introduces new tech, new interior for the next gen. cars, so it should have the stage for himself alone. So like ALDO stated September. Any news on the specs and technology?
I had have dinner tonight with someone who has seen the new Panamera without any camouflage.
The car is the car to have. The console looks very nice, with only few buttons. Huge navigation display.
The engines:
3.0l V6 Panamera and GTS
2.9l V6 hybrid
4.2l ?? V8 Turbo with 550 hp, the same engine gets Bentley and Ursus. Ursus with 700 hp or even more.
V8 diesel with 437 hp or so
The new Panamera is more sportier and offers more comfort! Lot of innovations will start with the car.
Outside a lot of elements of sports tourer concept car.
The rest is not for publicity, sorry.
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SciFrog:For the price they charge they better blow off the competition and make the car fun to drive and have 5 seats and more luggage space.
The models with V6 will have a hard time vs S8 and such yet still the biggest competition is the Macan...
I think they see it totally different. Panamera is D level and higher then Cayenne which it higher positioned then Macan,
5-seat is not Panamera, more luggage is not Panamera - if you need this you have to buy another car. Tell me which car offers 5 seats where 3 adults can sit in comfort at the rear seats?
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ALDO:SciFrog:S class AMG, 7 series, S8... All Panamera competitors... Maybe even the quatroporte...
And I would like to sit their with two other guys? Are you??
I would prefer to sit their if I share the rear bench with some nice chicks.
In that case I would prefer a stretched Limo
ALDO:RC:RS 991:Hey guys, any information when the new Panamera will be revealed? Rumours say either Geneva or Paris.
This year? March 2016? Not very likely but possible.
It is aroud week 36 or so. So September.
September makes much more sense than March.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Whoopsy:If Porsche kept their words on listening to customers, the next Panamera will have a 3 seater rear bench, with the option of going 2 seater.
They did already on lowering and streamlining the roof line.
If they would listen to customers, they would have offered a rear seat option for the GT3 and GT3 RS.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
WOW
Looks really sleak on the exterior from all angles (didn't see myself writing this based on what I think of the current car)
The updated interior and new tech looks very promising. Seems like the button fest has been replaced with touch panel in the mid console and the pcm screen looks quite much larger. Don't know about the touch though, personally I like pushing the real buttons. Also looks like the rev-counter still is analogue and then the surrounding cluster is full digital. Nice!
The interior looks great especially the combination of analog and digital elements around the rev counter. Button and touch display positioning seem to be thought after. I'm still no big fan of touch in cars though, but having tested the new touch sat-nav in the VW Golf, it works better than expected whilst driving. The biggest issue for some owners might be the fingerprints on the glossy center console
All in all, Porsche goes into the right direction IMO