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29 oct. 2015 12:20:28
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- En réponse de: Joost
Re: 911 R
Joost:So when it will come out it will have the 991.1 style lights&bumpers, whilst the 991.2 is already out?
From the article:
"Unlike this test mule, the finished 911 R will undoubtedly feature styling cues from the new 991.2, including the 3D effect brake lights and updated front light signature when it is officially released in March 2016."
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Re: 911 R
BjoernB:3.8 Liter engine is what I've heard as well - and around 300k Euro.......
That is more than double what a fairly pricing would allow. Is it possible that they will make this limited car as well as a GT3 with manual option (for half the money)?
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Re: 911 R
noone1:Um, how bad could a lack of a wing really be? A normal 911 without a wing can already do nearly 200mph, so I'm sure it will be just fine.
991 use extended rear spoiler in its Carrera versions. And extended position is obligatory for more then 120km/h. For a good reason.
29 oct. 2015 12:46:18
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- En réponse de: Grant
Re: 911 R
Grant:BjoernB:3.8 Liter engine is what I've heard as well - and around 300k Euro.......
That is more than double what a fairly pricing would allow. Is it possible that they will make this limited car as well as a GT3 with manual option (for half the money)?
You can get a GT3 for let's say 150k, why the "R" with exactly the same engine, no wing and manual gb should cost 150k more?? 
What so special will I get for this additional 150k?
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Re: 911 R
KresoF1:noone1:Um, how bad could a lack of a wing really be? A normal 911 without a wing can already do nearly 200mph, so I'm sure it will be just fine.
991 use extended rear spoiler in its Carrera versions. And extended position is obligatory for more then 120km/h. For a good reason.
R8 had the same thing and I'm pretty sure you could manually lower it whenever you wanted by just holding the spoiler button down...
29 oct. 2015 13:27:25
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- En réponse de: SportCarGroup
Re: 911 R
SportCarGroup:Grant:BjoernB:3.8 Liter engine is what I've heard as well - and around 300k Euro.......
That is more than double what a fairly pricing would allow. Is it possible that they will make this limited car as well as a GT3 with manual option (for half the money)?
You can get a GT3 for let's say 150k, why the "R" with exactly the same engine, no wing and manual gb should cost 150k more??
Because idiots pay $400-500K for a manual 599 while an F1 599 can't even find a buyer.
Re: 911 R
noone1:SportCarGroup:Grant:BjoernB:3.8 Liter engine is what I've heard as well - and around 300k Euro.......
That is more than double what a fairly pricing would allow. Is it possible that they will make this limited car as well as a GT3 with manual option (for half the money)?
You can get a GT3 for let's say 150k, why the "R" with exactly the same engine, no wing and manual gb should cost 150k more??
Because idiots pay $400-500K for a manual 599 while an F1 599 can't even find a buyer.
You are missing the point. The manual 599 are very very rare (30?).
There will be many 911R...
29 oct. 2015 13:34:57
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- En réponse de: SciFrog
Re: 911 R
SciFrog:I truly hate the game that Ferrari and now Porsche play: here is new model and BTW it is sold out. They should introduce a model, meet the demand then shut production.
Amen . I've had enough of the games. At the end of the day it's still just a car.
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Re: 911 R
I don't get the fuzz here - if you look at 997 speedster Prices here in CH , Sport classic , 997 RS 4.0 , why should a very limited car wtih obviously some goodies/configuration no-where seen in other models be cheaper ? The fact that they have already obviously more deposit or buyers than cars allows them so - and history has shown that limited always attracts. So all fine !
Re: 911 R
BjoernB:BjoernB:991RS is also at 319 here in CH around 100k more - whether they will go for this Price I dunno - but since they have 6000 deposits and around 2000 cars build chances are that some just want to have a car now.....
I am happy to send mine in 2016 down to Saudi for 500k
Believe it or not the RS in Saudi is not as sought after as say a turbo.. People here care more about fast accelerating cars than track oriented.. I had to order mine from Abudhabi simply because the dealer here was not interested in selling that particular model.
Re: 911 R
RS 991:http://gtspirit.com/2015/10/29/porsche-911-r-first-spy-shots-from-testing/
probably first real spyshots. Cheers.
Yes, this is the car and someone isn't pleased. 
Also, latest rumor indicates GT3 engine with 3.8 l with 475 hp, backseats(!) and a few weight reductions (carbon body parts like hood, etc.).
Price tag starts with a 2 (2xx EUR) in Germany but I don't have more details. It won't be cheap and it will be limited.
Also, car will be as fast as a 991 GT3 but changed aerodynamics will be compensated by a very clever rear diffusor system (surprise surprise...luckily you can already see it in these photos 
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Re: 911 R
RC:RS 991:http://gtspirit.com/2015/10/29/porsche-911-r-first-spy-shots-from-testing/
probably first real spyshots. Cheers.
Yes, this is the car and someone isn't pleased.
Also, latest rumor indicates GT3 engine with 3.8 l with 475 hp, backseats(!) and a few weight reductions (carbon body parts like hood, etc.).
Price tag starts with a 2 (2xx EUR) in Germany but I don't have more details. It won't be cheap and it will be limited.
Also, car will be as fast as a 991 GT3 but changed aerodynamics will be compensated by a very clever rear diffusor system (surprise surprise...luckily you can already see it in these photos
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
The 991 R will be the lightest 911 since 996. No back seats. The car will get a special interior color some dark brown color.
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Re: 911 R
ALDO:RC:RS 991:http://gtspirit.com/2015/10/29/porsche-911-r-first-spy-shots-from-testing/
probably first real spyshots. Cheers.
Yes, this is the car and someone isn't pleased.
Also, latest rumor indicates GT3 engine with 3.8 l with 475 hp, backseats(!) and a few weight reductions (carbon body parts like hood, etc.).
Price tag starts with a 2 (2xx EUR) in Germany but I don't have more details. It won't be cheap and it will be limited.
Also, car will be as fast as a 991 GT3 but changed aerodynamics will be compensated by a very clever rear diffusor system (surprise surprise...luckily you can already see it in these photos
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
The 991 R will be the lightest 911 since 996. No back seats. The car will get a special interior color some dark brown color.
So far, the backseats seem to be there (maybe as an option?). The car in the photo had them.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Re: 911 R
RC:ALDO:RC:RS 991:http://gtspirit.com/2015/10/29/porsche-911-r-first-spy-shots-from-testing/
probably first real spyshots. Cheers.
Yes, this is the car and someone isn't pleased.
Also, latest rumor indicates GT3 engine with 3.8 l with 475 hp, backseats(!) and a few weight reductions (carbon body parts like hood, etc.).
Price tag starts with a 2 (2xx EUR) in Germany but I don't have more details. It won't be cheap and it will be limited.
Also, car will be as fast as a 991 GT3 but changed aerodynamics will be compensated by a very clever rear diffusor system (surprise surprise...luckily you can already see it in these photos
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
The 991 R will be the lightest 911 since 996. No back seats. The car will get a special interior color some dark brown color.
So far, the backseats seem to be there (maybe as an option?). The car in the photo had them.
The car in the photos has a roll cage in the back.
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Re: 911 R
The car I saw with the very same license plate Y3028 had backseats and no roll cage. I cannot view the photos right now because of a VPN glitch but if the car in the photos has a roll cage, it has either been mounted afterwards or this is a different car (license plates are not bound to single cars, these test cars have a KBA certification and the license plates can be switched). It would be foolish for Porsche not to offer backseats but maybe they just decided that they aren't necessary on a limited model beyond good and evil priced car. 
Everything is possible...would be sad though.
Oh, the car had PDK, no manual.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Ford Mustang GT500 Shelby SVT (2014), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Re: 911 R
I hope they get rid of the center-lock wheels. If they want narrower tires, they could just use GT4 wheels (but they are not forged and any car costing over $200k deserves forged wheels).
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16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550
Re: 911 R
Grant:I hope they get rid of the center-lock wheels. If they want narrower tires, they could just use GT4 wheels (but they are not forged and any car costing over $200k deserves forged wheels).
Cars I saw had all CLs.
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