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Jun 20, 2015 11:42:14 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: bluelines

Re: 991.2 and future models

bluelines:
Spyderidol:
KresoF1:
Well... This is my very personal opinion. I am not against off topic posts but, this is way too much IMHO.

This is thread about 991.2 and future Porsche models. NOT about Tesla and Suburban or some other piece of crap. You guys fucked up this thread big time. What's next? Discussion about hybrid tech in city public transportation?

You could start new thread about electric/hybrid tech and discuss it there till end of time...

Seems to be common trait around here. I had a couple of guys go bananas over cameras ans camera lenses in a 24h Le Mans thread. Go figure!

Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.

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Jun 20, 2015 11:45:42 PM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

CGX car nut:

Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.

I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'.

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Jun 20, 2015 11:50:08 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

CGX car nut:
bluelines:
Spyderidol:
KresoF1:
Well... This is my very personal opinion. I am not against off topic posts but, this is way too much IMHO.

This is thread about 991.2 and future Porsche models. NOT about Tesla and Suburban or some other piece of crap. You guys fucked up this thread big time. What's next? Discussion about hybrid tech in city public transportation?

You could start new thread about electric/hybrid tech and discuss it there till end of time...

Seems to be common trait around here. I had a couple of guys go bananas over cameras ans camera lenses in a 24h Le Mans thread. Go figure!

Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.

There ya go. Off topic again. This thread is supposed to be about future models.

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Jun 21, 2015 2:17:18 PM

KMM: Expert; Loc: Boston, MA , United States; Posts: 1745, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 5, 2004; Reply to: fritz

Re: 991.2 and future models

Can we have a thread about keeping thread pure? Kind of a meta-thread?

Remember, creativity often comes from going off on tangents.

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Jun 21, 2015 5:12:42 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: apias

Re: 991.2 and future models

apias:
CGX car nut:

Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.

I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.

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Jun 21, 2015 5:33:00 PM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

CGX car nut:
apias:
CGX car nut:

Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.

I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.

Transmogrify: transform, especially in a surprising or magical manner.

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Jun 21, 2015 8:03:13 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: apias

Re: 991.2 and future models

apias:
CGX car nut:
apias:
CGX car nut:

Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.

I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.

Transmogrify: transform, especially in a surprising or magical manner.

Nothing magical here; let's return to the topic.

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Jun 21, 2015 9:02:20 PM

apias: Rennteam Pro; Loc: United States , United States; Posts: 2608, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2013; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

CGX car nut:
apias:
CGX car nut:
apias:
CGX car nut:

Keep a thread pure and then it won't transmute into a grand discussion about everything and anything.

I think the word you want is 'transmogrify'

Transmute, as change form or alter, is correct.

Transmogrify: transform, especially in a surprising or magical manner.

Nothing magical here; let's return to the topic.

Well, I for one would never have expected that we'd be debating whether 'transmute' or 'transmogrify' more aptly describes what happened, so, in that regard, it's certainly surprising.

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Jun 22, 2015 9:23:40 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: apias

Re: 991.2 and future models

Seriously, guys? enlightened I am an off-topic guy myself but this is too much now.

Back to topic please, otherwise I need to close this thread and open a new one.

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Jun 22, 2015 9:28:59 AM

kingjr9000: Senior; Loc: In my mind , United States; Posts: 549, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 15, 2015; Reply to: RC

Re: 991.2 and future models

RC:
Seriously, guys? I am an off-topic guy myself but this is too much now.

Back to topic please, otherwise I need to close this thread and open a new one.

I wouldn't say close it, I would just say to delete all of the O/T stuff. Also, I have to apologize for somewhat starting the slide. Smiley

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Jun 22, 2015 1:57:01 PM

bobr: Veteran; Loc: New York , United States; Posts: 945, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2003; Reply to: kingjr9000

Re: 991.2 and future models

RC, Any additional information on the 991 GT variant?

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Jun 22, 2015 10:26:26 PM

Adam2S: Senior; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 745, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 19, 2007; Reply to: bobr

Re: 991.2 and future models

Does anybody have the timeline for the new 991.2 and 992 model range? And for that matter what about 981.2 and 982?

The press seem to be suggesting both 991 and Cayman/Boxster facelifts are both due out later this year? That cant be right can it - surely Porsche wouldn't facelift all their sports car models in the same year? yes

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Jun 22, 2015 10:41:39 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12585, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: Adam2S

Re: 991.2 and future models

Adam2S:
Does anybody have the timeline for the new 991.2 and 992 model range? And for that matter what about 981.2 and 982?

The press seem to be suggesting both 991 and Cayman/Boxster facelifts are both due out later this year? That cant be right can it - surely Porsche wouldn't facelift all their sports car models in the same year?

The facelift for the 997 and 987 were both for Model Year 2009, but 997 came a few months earlier. Probably gonna be similar this time - 991.2 shown in the Fall 2015 (Frankfurt Sept. 17) and 981.2 shown early 2016 (987.2 was Feb 21, 2009).

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Jun 23, 2015 1:35:04 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: bobr

Re: 991.2 and future models

bobr:
RC, Any additional information on the 991 GT variant?

No, unfortunately not. The rumor seems to have spread to various (internet/press) publications but everyone seems to fantasize in a different way about it. Smiley

Truth is: Right now, Porsche has to downsize engines and they seem to keep the n/a engine range limited to the low production (vs. Carrera models) number GT3 RS. There is room for a special edition n/a Carrera RS model but I doubt this car would be cheaper than the GT3 RS, on the contrary.

Time will tell but I think Porsche has a good run right now with the GT3 RS and the GT4 and this may take a while...

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Jun 23, 2015 3:48:43 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 991.2 and future models

Since this videos has been lost in data loss...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC_OoKPy0kk

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Jun 23, 2015 7:10:54 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: Grant

Re: 991.2 and future models

Grant:
Adam2S:
Does anybody have the timeline for the new 991.2 and 992 model range? And for that matter what about 981.2 and 982?

The press seem to be suggesting both 991 and Cayman/Boxster facelifts are both due out later this year? That cant be right can it - surely Porsche wouldn't facelift all their sports car models in the same year?

The facelift for the 997 and 987 were both for Model Year 2009, but 997 came a few months earlier. Probably gonna be similar this time - 991.2 shown in the Fall 2015 (Frankfurt Sept. 17) and 981.2 shown early 2016 (987.2 was Feb 21, 2009).

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Yes, the Boxster/Cayman updated twins probably will debut at the North American Auto Show, or even at Los Angeles.

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Jun 24, 2015 12:50:31 PM

olli: Pilot; Loc: Germany; Posts: 418, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 24, 2006; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

Regarding future GT models (eg GT2 ect), the evolving regulations in terms of the GTE class may have some bearing on that, as turbo-charged engines will probably dominate going forward, starting in 2016.

It remains to be seen if the combination of N/A and hybrid tech ( a la LMP1) makes it into the next gen 911 and/or it GT variants, or maybe some sort of 960 model.

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Jun 25, 2015 10:27:18 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59579, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: olli

Re: 991.2 and future models

To be blunt, I'm not so sure what I want to see first from Porsche: A nice and roomy "Panamera" Coupe (well, you get my point what I mean, some sort of 928 successor) a la BMW 6 series or Mercedes S Coupe or a "960"? Tough one.

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Jun 25, 2015 7:28:05 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: RC

Re: 991.2 and future models

RC:
To be blunt, I'm not so sure what I want to see first from Porsche: A nice and roomy "Panamera" Coupe (well, you get my point what I mean, some sort of 928 successor) a la BMW 6 series or Mercedes S Coupe or a "960"? Tough one.

A 960 please.

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Jun 25, 2015 7:33:22 PM

Whoopsy: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Vancouver,BC , Canada; Posts: 16151, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 19, 2006; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

928 successor is more attractive from a corporate point of view. Platform is already there and market is already there.

960 will be great news for us enthusiasts but the market is not big enough yet. Nor will it be cheap to develop. They need a new engine and new or modify the Huracan platform.

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Jun 25, 2015 7:36:00 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12585, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

CGX car nut:
RC:
To be blunt, I'm not so sure what I want to see first from Porsche: A nice and roomy "Panamera" Coupe (well, you get my point what I mean, some sort of 928 successor) a la BMW 6 series or Mercedes S Coupe or a "960"? Tough one.

A 960 please.

Yeah, a 960 could be a really exciting offering if done right. I imagine there will be several versions with AWD, RWD, NA, Turbos, Hybrid, etc.

I just hope one of those versions is a lightweight RWD motorsport type product with NA Flat-8 that revs to at least 9k rpm, has a manual gearbox option, and hydraulic steering (pump driven by electric motor like all the 911 factory race cars of recent decades). I would sell the house for that Smiley

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Jun 25, 2015 8:13:37 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: Whoopsy

Re: 991.2 and future models

Whoopsy:
928 successor is more attractive from a corporate point of view. Platform is already there and market is already there.

960 will be great news for us enthusiasts but the market is not big enough yet. Nor will it be cheap to develop. They need a new engine and new or modify the Huracan platform.

Not sure a sizable market exists for a 928 successor even if it is more attractive from corporates point of view.

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Jun 25, 2015 8:54:29 PM

bobr: Veteran; Loc: New York , United States; Posts: 945, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2003; Reply to: CGX car nut

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I think the next generation Panamera platform will support potential brand extension - Panamera Coupe.

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Jun 26, 2015 12:27:07 AM

keithos27: Pilot; Loc: Atlanta, GA , United States; Posts: 311, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2012; Reply to: bobr

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Makes sense...

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Jun 26, 2015 2:15:55 AM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 5173, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: bobr

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bobr:
I think the next generation Panamera platform will support potential brand extension - Panamera Coupe.

Yes and the Porsche developed MSB platform should be the foundation of the next generation of Bentleys. However, the great looking Bentley concept car is on Audi's MLB architecture.

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Jun 26, 2015 3:15:20 PM

MKW: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Palo Alto and North Lake Tahoe , United States; Posts: 2491, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 22, 2002; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: 991.2 and future models

CGX car nut:
Whoopsy:
928 successor is more attractive from a corporate point of view. Platform is already there and market is already there.

Not sure a sizable market exists for a 928 successor even if it is more attractive from corporates point of view.

I agree ....MBZ S-class coupes and BMW 6 series coupes are a very rare bird in my upscale environs and from purely a thought experiment standpoint, if Tesla were to build a sleek Tesla S coupe on their same sedan chassis, it would outsell these 2- door offerings from MBZ, BMW ( and Porsche ) 500 to 1 around here in Silicon Valley Smiley

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Jun 26, 2015 3:32:25 PM

SciFrog: Rennteam VIP; Loc: USA , United States; Posts: 9870, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 15, 2005; Reply to: MKW

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Mercedes should use Telsa technology to build cars and SUVs...

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Jun 26, 2015 3:37:01 PM

EnglishManInNY: Expert; Loc: Long Island NY. , United States; Posts: 1477, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 8, 2003; Reply to: MKW

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Interesting how Silicon Valley is different to the North East. I see lots of BMW 6-series, MB CLS and now MB S-coupe everyday in my neighborhood...

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Jun 26, 2015 3:44:36 PM

Gladstone: Expert; Loc: Kansas City, MO , United States; Posts: 1813, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 27, 2008; Reply to: SciFrog

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SciFrog:
Mercedes should use Telsa technology to build cars and SUVs...

They already have the B class electric loaded with Tesla technology. Smiley

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Jun 26, 2015 4:22:10 PM

KresoF1: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 7856, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 3, 2005; Reply to: Gladstone

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Drove Tesla lately again and it is by far the worst car in drive dynamics that I drove in last 20 years or so. Total POC.

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